"Agnosticism is the view that claims of truth should be held with a convinction appropriate with the amount of supporting evidence."
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"convinction" is a new word to me. I do not support any religion but I do not condemn those who believe in many fantasies
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.I once saw a young girl in utter grief, sobbing uncontrollably, and could not be comforted. I learned that someone had told her that Santa did not exist, and it was as if she had lost an actual loved one. Some might say, how awful that someone told her the truth about Santa. I say, how awful that someone told her the lie in the first place.
A child may believe they "love" Santa, but in actuality, they "love" the concept, the idea, of Santa. Because, Santa does not exist. You cannot love an unsubstantiated belief. You may love the concept or idea of that belief which you have conceptualized over your lifetime from many different sources. But the substance, the reality, the proof, the most important thing needed to have people believe, that they can't produce.
You may not want to condemn the child, but I think those who push belief over evidence should at least get a good kick in the ass.
nogod4me
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Nov 4, 2024
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I guess my question with god believers is what do you really believe. I quote Krishnamurti:Belief is a denial of truth, belief hinders truth; to believe in God is not to find God. Neither the believer nor the non-believer will find God; because reality is the unknown, and your belief or non-belief in the unknown is merely a self-projection and therefore not real. I know you believe and I know it has very little meaning in your life."Belief has no place where truth is concerned."
If someone wants to believe that the world is flat, the moon landings were faked, Elvis lives and if you play Sgt Peppers backwards it says "Paul is dead" then go for it. I think you are dumb but harmless. It is another thing to believe that the holocaust never happened, 9/11 was a zionist conspiracy, COVID was a hoax, climate change is not real and masses of illegal migrants stole the 2020 election as these are far from harmless. They impact negatively on other people's lives.
If someone wants to believe in their imaginary friend, fine. If you think that he wants you to help at food banks, homeless shelters, and soup kitchens then great! But if you want to enact laws that impose your beliefs upon other people then I will call out your stupidity out all day long!
273kelvin
Level 8
Nov 2, 2024
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Enchanted! 460F. I do not believe in any of those things. In 2000 I ran politically proclaimingGlobal Warming and then I think many thought me "dumb but harmless". 9/11 might have involved Zionists. It was not done by Aghanis.
I prevent religion telling me how to be. If Trump makes the States into a pseudo Christian country, then their constitution is out the window and any rule fails,
If Religionsbenefit the poor so that the country ignores them, then that is a failing of the country.
Agnosticism is unrelated to conviction, it is related to skepticism, or doubt. I think an Agnostic is merely someone who just has not looked into the issue enough.
Alienbeing
Level 8
Nov 2, 2024
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Wonderfully obscure response. I love it.
@rogerbenham Nothing obscure about it.
@Alienbeing Then you are too clever for me. My apologies.
My theory to account for all the religions is that we live in an intersecting multiverse. Everyone's delusions, er, I mean beliefs, actually exist in their particular reality.
racocn8
Level 9
Nov 2, 2024
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I hope beyond life to experience a new dimension which looking back will make our present seem rather flat and perhaps illusionary
"Nature red in tooth and claw"
“All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts, His acts being seven ages” As You Like It, Act 2, Scene 7
“Let it hurt until it can't hurt anymore.” ...
“We forge the chains we wear in life.” ...
“Life hurts a lot more than death” - Goru.
"Life is a constant process of dying." -Arthur Schopenhauer –
"To live is to suffer; to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering."-Friedrich Nietzsche
(...and just what meaning would that be???)
... But seriously....
As the weariness of age steadily encroaches on my activity and aspirations, I wonder how I could have lived better. Is there a "better" to be had? I don't need to die to feel like my present life is flat and incomplete. The threat of death makes all of life futile and absurd. Even if people weren't so incompetent, what would we do? What have we done and what are we doing? Is anything worth doing?
I watched a video where the presenter said that while there is no god, that there is universal consciousness. Supposedly our lives are meant to inform that consciousness. Is speculation anything more than a way to pass the time?
I salute your optimism.
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