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How do you view the term “politically correct”?

In the U.S. the term “politically correct” is a meme that is typically used by conservatives to create a negative connotation so they can then accuse liberals of trying to control their free speech when we call them out on indecency. The proper term should be “common decency” or “common civility, not “political correctness.” Conservatives are welcome to say anything they like. Trump certainly does. However, the rest of us have a right and an obligation to call them out when they make racist, homophobic, Islamaphobic or sexist remarks, for example. Roseanne Barr’s comments are a recent example.

This also works in reverse. For example, when liberals attempt to be sensitive to the non-Christians during the holidays when they say “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas.” This isn’t about liberals being “political correct.” It is about common decency. It is about being civil towards other groups besides Christians.

Language matters!

Does anyone else see this differently?

SeekingWisdom 6 May 29
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Common decency is unfortunately not common , conservatives will deride anything they don't agree with and ridicule with nasty intent

bobwjr Level 10 July 13, 2021
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Good manners and consideration for others mean I call people what they want to be called. When someone accuses me of political correctness I tell them I've been told that that is the term people of that persuasion prefer. I'll be glad to call you whatever you want me to call you as well.

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You are absolutely correct. People who are engaging in uncivil conduct don't like it when they are called out for their behavior. So, they invented the term "political correctness" to disparage their chastisements.

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Correct amundo!

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In short, political correctness is forcing everyone else to accept what a certain portion of society deems to be correct speech/thought, and both the political left and right do this. Freedom of speech means the freedom to offend as well as long as no threats to personal welfare are made, and one could choose to either get offended or walk away. I find it ironic and even amusing that the liberal left is the side that always preaches understanding and acceptance, and these are the very same individuals who are quick to bash opposing political views. I'm not brainwashed by either side, and don't care about saying things that society says I should.

SpikeTalon, I would argue that no one is forcing you or anyone else to “accept what a certain portion of society deems to be correct speech/thought.” Rather, we liberals are merely suggesting that we all be civil toward others, with both our actions and our language. This applies to liberals as well as conservatives. I agree that “freedom of speech means the freedom to offend as well” but it doesn’t make uncivil behavior ok.

“Bashing political views” is a healthy and necessary part of our form of democracy but even this can be done with civility. Liberals don’t tend to use offensive language (of course there are exceptions) because we tend to be more empathetic. Conservatives tend towards authoritarianism and somehow this translates to behavior that is less than respectful. Consider the name calling and disrespect that the conservatives used constantly towards Barack Obama. A perfect example of this lack of respect is when Joe Wilson of South Carolina 🌈 shouted ”You lie!" at the joint session of Congress speech. This kind of disrespect and lack of civility seems to be acceptable to conservatives. [Obama had not lied - [politifact.com]]; consider also the outrageous language of Trump towards nearly every non-white category of people: women, blacks, Hispanics, LGBT, Muslims, handicapped, etc. Now ask yourself how many Republicans have called him out on this behavior.

@SeekingWisdom If someone becomes uncivil in their tone, you could choose to walk away from the conversation. Liberals use just as much offensive language as the conservatives do, and they certainly have no qualms in downing the President. Conservatives believe in individual liberty as opposed to government assistance, that is hardly authoritarian, you confuse atheist conservatives with religious screwballs. You've been under a rock lately, there have been plenty of Republicans that have openly downed Trump and fought against some things that he had wanted to pass. Lastly, Obama did to lie, the Affordable Care Act was one big lie, even alot of Democrats I know suffered under that act and their cost of healthcare went sky high, and not to mention how unconstitutional the individual mandate was forcing everyone to be covered or you faced paying a fine. How is that freedom? He did to lie, among other lies. Next time, you might not want to quote a liberal source for the "facts", because you are only going to get one side of the story, which pretty much leads to my original comment. I honestly do not care for either political party.

NotConvinced - can you offer an example of words that have been made illegal? Or of shaming those that speak their minds?

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I feel this began when we started renaming groups of people. For example, the evolution of the term "colored" to "African American" to "black"; or the term "oriental" to "Asian", or the term "girl" for any female office worker, etc. When someone would use the older term, they would be told that term is no longer "politically correct" and the term we use now is ___, which is more respectful. People who did not want to change the terminology they used were then irritated by the pressure to change and so began sneering the phrase "politically correct" about anything they feel they shouldn't have to refer to with respect. Now we seem to be backsliding and its trendy for any group to be referred to in the most derogatory terms possible and anybody that doesn't like it is sneered at for having feelings. In fact it is popular around here to see the sentiment "fuck your feelings" on bumpers and t-shirts. I guess its helpful when people self-identify as assholes that way, so that if any evil might befall them, others can stand around and sneer at them for having feelings too.

You make a good point. I think the people who did not want to change their old terminology felt the other people were being too thin skinned and too sensitive.

On the other hand, there is a lot of hypersensitivity going around too. What do you think? Or is it just me?

@dare2dream I think some people are hypersensitive. I think some social trends are ridiculous - example I personally think having to drag around a "service animal" to "help you stay calm" is a bit cray-cray. The pendulum swings both ways.

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The underlying theme coming from the right seems to be rigid intolerance, with the expectation that we should be tolerant of their intolerance. They are constantly offended about one thing or another, but if we get offended, we're "snowflakes". Clinton's indiscretion was anathema. Trump's is excusable. IOKIYAR (it's ok if you're a republican). Two different sets of rules.

But yes, I agree. It is about politeness, civility and acceptable behavior. Has nothing to do with politics. Only humanity and kindness which is in short supply these days.

@SallyMc Good point If you're not white and christian you don't matter

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The proper term should be “common decency” or “common civility, not “political correctness.” ​ Excellent idea!

When I hear someone disparage being politially correct, I wonder, who would want to be politically incorrect?

Question: If I know someone to be Christian and I wish them a happy holiday, am I being politically incorrect?

I propose that we not use their terminology at all. You are not showing a lack of civility or common decency if you say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" and if the receiver of your good wishes can't understand it for what it its, I would say - that is on them. On the other hand, if you know you are in the presence of Christians only, then using "Merry Christmas" shouldn't be a problem either, even for those of us who are atheists. In fact, perhaps it is the more civil or decent way to do this. For me, it depends upon the 'audience.'

@SeekingWisdom : You make a lot of sense to me. I'm following you now. 🙂 I'll seek your wisdom. 😉

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