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Who is Anti-Vaccine ? Who is Pro-Vaccine?

Please details why and what made you make these decisions...

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Ravenwolfcasey 7 June 1
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I don't need to die of some illness we already beat the shit out of because people are fucking stupid.

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At least this post has pointed out a couple of stupid people to block. I have a very low tolerance for stupid and conspiracy theorists. They seem to think doctors, people that work for pharm companies, and the government don't have families or care if those families get infectious diseases. That much stupid is hard to fathom.

They like their jobs and security more than the truth..

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My parents made the decision for me and I made the decision for my children to be vaccinated. They work no matter what the tin foil hat types say.

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There's a reason my daughter has never had polio, measles, mumps or diphtheria

What do you think? [pin.it]

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Pro vaccine. I know four people in my town when l was growing up growing up who had polio. We had a guitar player and toured with Leon Russell. Both had polio. Many of you are too young to have seen people in an iron lung.

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the world isnt over populated yet. its estimated 11 billion people is the highest sustainable limit for humans

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Wow lots of brainwashed people on this post...

Check out facts
[vaxxed.com]

You have an unusual definition of "facts"

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Wow lots of brainwashed people on this post...

Check out facts
[vaxxed.com]

Have you considered talking to a doctor, or consulting the scientific literature, instead of a blog for people to post conspiracy theories?

@Katrik there are plenty of doctors who are whistle blowers who are against vaccines

@Ravenwolfcasey citation needed

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Vaccines work. Yes, there is a mortality rate, but insignificant to the mortality rates of the diseases themselves. This being said,I don't vaccinate against diseases I'm highly unlikely to encountersuch as malaria.

There is zero scientific data that proves vaccines do anything other than destroy your immune system

@Ravenwolfcasey There is no evidence to support your point of view.

@Ravenwolfcasey The main killer disease of young children prior to the mid 50's was Polio. After massive vaccinations the cases of Polio have dropped to now it's just a memory and only 10 people still needing Iron Lungs.

@Ravenwolfcasey Here is just one study about one vaccine.
[thelancet.com]
Next time, take 15 minutes to run a google search before claiming there has never been any study showing they work.

@Ravenwolfcasey That just isn't true.

@Katrik that is bias and paid by drug and vaccine makers

@Katrik that is bias and paid by drug and vaccine makers

@pixiedust ummm there are thousands of independent studies that prove my view

@Ravenwolfcasey No there aren't. The few that seemed to exist have been thoroughly and completely (and repeatedly) debunked. Blocking you now because I'm no longer interested in your close-minded and dangerous foolishness.

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I've had friends that had polio as children, I've known people who ended up in hospital for measles. What more needs to be said.

Kimba Level 7 June 1, 2018

The percentage of people who died from or were debilitated by polio was very very small..

Me, too, including one really sweet girl in high school.

@Ravenwolfcasey You're to young to realize what Polio was and how deadly it was back then. FDR had Polio and had started the 'March of Dimes' campaign to find a cure. If you could supply me with a reference to your claim of low percentage of people debilitated or died, I am willing to entertain your contention.

@Ravenwolfcasey
My father-in-law was disabled from polio as a child and died of post polio syndrome decades later.

@buzz13 your generation was brainwashed by junk science

@Ravenwolfcasey Yes I know, we even think astronauts landed on the moon!

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It is my social responsibility to protect my fellow humans to the best of my capability any chacne I can.

There is no such thing as herd immunity

@Ravenwolfcasey You're entitled to your ignorance.

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Extremely Pro-Vaccine because:
1.) They work
2.) No claims about their ill effects (Autism) have been substantiated by ANY peer reviewed studies or reputable sources.
3.) They work
4.) We have eradicated diseases using them (small pox).
5.) And in case I forgot to mention, they work

Ask why it's illegal in this country to sue vaccine makers? And why is there a vaccine injury court that pays families who's children died or were debilitated by vaccines? If a company has no liability making a product ask if you think they will be honest in their research a scientific data

@Ravenwolfcasey You can die taking a drink of water but I'd suggest still drinking it. A few rare cases does not an agreement make..

@Ravenwolfcasey First off they do have liability. They can't just sell whatever they want. All drugs must go through extensive testing and approval processes before they can ever go to market.

I'm no legal expert, but from what I could find regarding their civil lawsuit protections, it has to due with government interest in keeping the costs of vaccines down so that everyone can afford them. If these companies had to defend themselves against every idiot who reads the crap on blogs, the prices would be at least 3 times higher.

@Katrik you are very ill informed

@Ravenwolfcasey The same reason you can sue Peter Pan because you die from a peanut allergy.

@Ravenwolfcasey then give me citations to show where I’m wrong. Just saying nuh uh, doesn’t make me wrong.

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I would be guided by my doctor ,I hope, who would tell me the risks .

Drs make profits from vaccines

@Ravenwolfcasey Maybe in America, but not in many other countries around the world which have free healthcare. No profit motive for doctors to promote something that doesn't work
Which vaccine in particular are you against or is it all of them? Please reference your research so that I can evaluate your conclusions. What are your sources?

@Uncorrugated and in those countries they are not pushing vaccines as much as the USA

we almost nearly have a national Health Service free at the point of need, but our Tory Party is running it into the ground in order to privatise it - But at the moment I trust my Doctor without having to pay her.

@Ravenwolfcasey Free to under 18's and parents are encouraged to take them up for their children. Where is your evidence that other countries do not push vacines?
You have made 2 sweeping statements - Government controlled weapon and other countries don't push vaccines, yet have offered no evidence to back up these claims. Sources please.

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Young children used to routinely die from diphtheria and pertussis. Vaccines are not harmless, but going back to "the good old days" of no vaccines is not a satisfactory alternative.

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I hope you never meet my doctor daughter. I don't want her to be jailed for assaulting you. LOL

Ask your daughter what she was actually taught about vaccines in med school..

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I am Anti-Vaccine due to my own scientific research and the countless evidence that to me proves vaccines are a government controlled weapon at depopulation

No wonder you support trumpie. What about the millions who live today because they did not catch the many illnesses that are out there. Qh well at least those who do not believe in vacines will be removed from society.or suffer there pain and suffering.

@Marine - Darwinism is awesome that way; weeds out the weak ones.

Your own research, eh? Can you give even one reputable source for that claim?

Are you really a Trumpy ????

a couple things to this, 1 why would government want depopulation?(we are their source of income and power) 2 if you look at population increases since the discovery of penicillin and other vaccines you would clearly see they work at keeping the populous alive longer

@NotConvinced However many have not had to experience the pain and death since vaccines.I can remember the terrible polio cases and the fear people had before Salk

@Marine vaccines have not stopped any disease it's an entire lie

@Katrik I research everything and make an informed decision

@NotConvinced Because the vaccines work

@NotConvinced, @Ravenwolfcasey Youmust be using the comic strips to make your decision.

@Ravenwolfcasey Please cite your evidence. I really would like to see it.

@Ravenwolfcasey You claimed that vaccines are a bioweapon engineered to cull the population's numbers, and claim that your beliefs are based on research. So again I ask, can you cite even one reputable source for this?

@Katrik it's to make people sick so they can be charged to live on the drugs they are told to take by their doctors

@Ravenwolfcasey source please

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