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Should a company who hires workers to work in the heat and cold be responsible for these workers well being while they are on the job.In other words should they monitor for heat stroke,frost bite etc that occur because of the climate these men must work in .

Marine 8 July 2

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They should absolutely be held responsible. If that means needing to regularly check on workers, so be it. But better still would be proactive measures to prevent injury/illness.


It is my opinion that working under these conditions requires the company to provide proper rest periods, water and even coffee during the winter to these workers. The weather being part of the job should require the company to do the right thing by these workers. I am aware that this is not the case since many unions have been driven out of business. Unions had their bad cases but they also provided the eight hour day, vacations, overtime pay , 5 day work week, health ins. disability coverage and worker safety rules. These are being eliminated without the unions!


Of course, and they need to be trained to work in those conditions. OSHA standards.

OSHA has been weakened in the past 20 years till now it's just an acronym. When I was working back then there were many instances of employer neglect toward employees and they were fined for such. It's been all downhill since the Reagan Era since.

Need yes trained equipped not always


Yeah plus it means less sick days etc

And less law suits.


Of course that should be a given.


Having to take and pass the OSHA exam I can assure you that companies are responsible to make sure that employees are informed and have access to all related safety gear but it is not necessarily the companies obligation to supply that gear in more dangerous occupations i e fishing logging although the company needs to have safety procedures in place it is the employee's responsibility to ensure that they are aware of their environment and the hazards that are around them

You aren't wrong, but this is an 'is' answer to an 'aught' question.

Would be nice but not always true.


Of course they should. But the problem is that many such companies treat their workers as independent ontractor instead of employees, and the law lets them get away with it.


OSHA has had rules on this for decades, but it is up to the worker to monitor how they feel, some have much more tolerance for heat or cold than others. Strong Unions are the only way to get OSHA rules properly enforced, by the way! In fact if not for (formerly) strong Unions, there would be no OSHA!

Have you check3ed lately ?Many of the rules that OSHA had have been discarded by this administration and people working in chemical plants are now exposed to gases that were previously controled. It does no good if a person working in heat feels bad and they are told to go home without pay. I know this to be happening in some private firms. Every head that has been appointed to a department has either reduced controls or eliminated rules.

@Marine I know....gawd forbid you as a Person trying to make a living should have some protection....back to the 1900's, when a 6 year old could get horribly mangled in machinery, "next"!


If one of those workers was your brother, son, father or even yourself. What would you think then?

Of course they should be responsible. Otherwise there will be deaths as happened at the building of the Qatar World Cup stadium.


Yes. and dust, and gases, and any other health risk.


I have worked on oil drilling rigs in all kinds of conditions. That being said, I believe that an employer and employee share responsibility for ones well being. You realistically can't babysit everyone all the time.If you feel you are in any danger of over exposure, I have never seen an instance where supervisors forced anyone to continue.They have always told someone to take a break, cool off, warm up, get more gear, whatever it takes.

I have known of several people on rigs that were fired for compaining that something was not safe. My sister was their att'y and this continues today.

@Marine I have brought up safety issues many times and every time the situation was addressed. I'm not saying it never happens, but I have never witnessed it.

@nvrnuff Most of her client's were from a very major company


Absolutely. And in jurisdictions which care about workers health and welfare, that's what the laws says they must do. And here in British Columbia, the laws are even enforced.


Enforcement and some laws were eroded under our previous conservative government, but we're back on track now.

Very commendable for British Columbia to enforce worker safety.

@PickledRick Yes it is; but it certainly has been a battle at times.


Yes they should. If these workers decide it's against their best interest to work in unreasonable circumstances then their employer would fire them for stopping work if there is no union. Employers should provide a safe working environment as required by law.

Spot on !


Seems to me it would be in the employer's best interests.

It is, but some have tunnel vision and see only the costs, never the benefits to their bottom line.


I work in archaeology and the answer is YES. Even apart from the moral argument, thinks aren't going get done if your workers are dropping like flies from heat exhaustion or hurting from sun burn. It is the company's responsibility enable their workers work comfortably. I worked outside with heavy tools on the scorching heat recently and it was very, very difficult. But it was made clear to me that if I need a water break, I should take it.


Most certainly.


I think that it goes without saying that if an employer controls the environment in which his employees work, that employer is responsible for the eployees' well being. Monitoring for heat stroke, frost bite etc that occurr on the job is part of the program.

albu Level 3 July 2, 2018

I worked for a few years at a place that literally was a sweatshop and the ownership and management couldn't have cared less about the health and safety of the hourly workers there in the laboring jobs. There was no AC except for the offices and barely any heat on the work floor. This place really needed a union, but there's no way they would have kept the plan open if one was organized. The business was cheap auto accessories, like chroming up cars and trucks. I know for a fact that they frequently and knowingly hired undocumented workers. But the most outrageous thing was that they guy who owned it was worth 78 million $. The place never got raided by ICE for the undoc workers even tho it was common knowledge because the owner was too rich and politically connected. It was probably about the worst job I ever had as far as how much contempt and hatred I had for the owner and the top management of the place. I can also only imagine how toxic the air in that place was also.

And of course, there was only paid sick leave for management.

A typical plant in hundreds of Iowa places OSHA won't inspect them until somebody dies or is PERMANENTLY disabled ... temp service agencies hire victims at minimum wages and bill the perpetrator companies for the exact same "wage+overhead" amount thus shielding the company from workers comp claims ..... the workers work a few days or few weeks and then quit for better jobs or just to save their own lives

@Larry68Feminist Yup, that's one of the many joys of living in a right to work for less state..




Short answer: absolutely yes...

Long answer: Employers are absolutely responsible for our workers safety regarding environmental considerations. I work for an EMS agency in NY. We are very careful to make sure our ambulances have fully functional heating and A/C. We also outfit our staff with proper uniforms for almost any considerable condition. These include jackets, coats, rain gear, head wear, and lightweight shirts. We also make sure that our staff have comfortable stations to stay in in between call for service. As for consumables, we provide coffee or other warm beverage options, filtered cold water dispenser, and various other options for when its needed. Our supervisors look after their people, making sure there are no signs of environmental exposure that will cause problems. And why do we do this? Well, if we don't, we lose staff to injury and sickness (more than we do now...) It's in the agency's best interests to avoid injury and illnesses, no?

Unfortunately most employers are not that vigilant of worker safety.


Only men?

Lia65 Level 4 Oct 8, 2019

Another typical sexist ignorant of workplace laws protecting women and men....he is not reading posted work rules required by law where he was hired


Yes, in extreme temps more frequent breaks are needed to avoid dehydration and heat stroke, or frost bite and lung burn. Extremes in weather for outdoor employees can be very dangerous.


Worker safety has always depended on the collective actions of workers. Traditionally bosses will do whatever they can get away with.


They should but we all know under the current administration they won't.

Current administration needs to go. I want Obama back... sigh.....

BidenS is infamous for his workers loopholes he voted into OSHA laws with Strom Thurmond guiding him

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