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Overweight shows weakness?

So I got into almost an argument with family members when the subject of health came up. They actually made the remark to say that the true strong people are the ones who never allowed themselves to gain weight to become overweight to begin with and that people overweight are only strong minded to do something about it. Like, really? That’s completely unrealistic because sometime life happens and the individual have no choice but to automatically gain weight. I thought what this person said was just plain pointless and stupid. What do any of you think?

EmeraldJewel 7 July 10
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Fat is caused by...
depression
hormone levels
poverty
food deserts
abuse
oppression
anxiety
poor living condisions
stress
illness

you will notice none of these are over eating or self-fucking-control.

@Morganfreeman I know poverty as a cause of being overweight sounds strange but, when you look at the food choices that are available to people that available that do not have a lot of money it kind of makes sense. The most inexpensive foods are pretty much crap and full of fat and highly processed. As opposed to using fresh meats, fruits and vegetables. Which unfortunately are a lot more expensive.

@Morganfreeman skeptic? WTF? You can read right...then fucking google it you nit wit... stop expecting others to do your work.

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@Beach_slim body shaming much? why yes you are...and you can't read.

There’s also medication to be added to the list. I take two that both say ‘may cause weight gain’ on the insert and I’m quite sure there’s there’s many more.

@Morganfreeman and yet you blame the victims. Hummm why is that?

@Morganfreeman, @Beach_slim fat shaming... really... how about asshole shaming...There's a reason y'all are single. Really people don't put up with this kind of abuse.

@Beach_slim is some kind of troll... can't figure out which type and I don't have the spoons for it right now... maybe later. However, his support of the alt-right is all over his page/no pic/ no real local/ no real anything means that this person is a little bitch.

@MissaDixon I understand what you are saying. @Beach_slim @Morganfreeman , True, a lot of being in good shape has much to do with diet and exercise. However, there are exceptions and they are becoming more and more prevalent. Before you judge and say that if people would just diet and exercise they wouldn't have a weight problem, look at the exceptions and see if you can possibly be a little empathetic and non-judgmental. Have you ever had an extremely painful autoimmune disease and had to be on very high doses of steroids just to function? (corticosteroids cause extreme weight gain in case you didn't know) Have you ever had every single joint and/or muscle in your body so painful and inflamed that you can hardly get out of bed, let alone exercise? How about having a low functioning or inactive thyroid? How about losing your thyroid to cancer? PCOS? Cushing's Syndrome? A failing liver? Epstein-Barr? CFS? Hormone deficiency? Depression? I can go on if you want to. I have autoimmune diseases (lupus, fibromyalgia, CFS, underactive thyroid) and also depression and insomnia caused by all of it so, I know the struggle. And it is a very true and difficult struggle. As if it is not bad enough living with chronic pain and fatigue, myself and others like myself have to put up with judgmental people like you. So please get yourself educated and quit assuming that someone is overweight because they are just lazy! If you need help, there is this thing called Google where you enter a topic that you want to know more about and it will lead you to places you can get yourself informed and become less ignorant.

@Morganfreeman After careful reading, I realized that I don't know what on earth you are trying to say!

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I can tell you this I got very sick I was on massive steroids and I swelled up like a balloon. I was 42 pounds overweight as soon as I went off the steroids I adjusted my eating program I drop down to 12 to 1500 calories I exercise everyday I drink a lot of water and guess what I lost 42 pounds I'm not going to bash on anybody if they're overweight but unless you do have a health problem in my case it was rheumatoid arthritis making it necessary for me to take steroids being skinny is a choice

It's not always a choice. Knew a very thin person with a high metabolism, could eat anything and couldn't gain. She wanted to be thick and curvy.

@valerina

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skinny angry ppl die too and are not always healthier than fat ppl

and who wants to screw with a stick it hurts to bump bones bruised hips are not fun

in women we have extra for bearing children and getting oregnant can change body chemistry so that one can get thinner or fatter more easily my first 2 kids i lost weight as a not chubby but not thin teen i lost weight and was thin for the first time in my life but child number 3 i gained so fast and could not loose it even with diets or pills

Lmfao

@Morganfreeman who the hell said anything about not fitting in elevators good fucking gravy that is another conversation im not that fucking fat but ive outlived 4 of my siblings skinnier siblings and im oldest of 7

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How unbelievably ignorant.
There are any number of reasons why anyone becomes overweight.
Personal "strength" really doesn't even rank among them.

I cannot even begin to imagine how you put up with those people.

Well...I cursed them out lmfao!

@EmeraldJewel Attagirl!!!

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Also I've watched skinny people eat my weight in pizza and people 'haha you're so lucky" but I eat one slice of pizza and "see that's why you can't lose weight."
They always say they're concerned about the health of fat people but they never seem concerned about the health of skinny people that eat piles of garbage every day

IKR! I know a woman in her late 80s who eats junk all the time and brag about how she’s been skinny all her life. I finally said,” Jist cause you skinny doesn’t ensure you’re healthy with you eating loads of garbage.” She got on my last nerves.

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Skinny women, like a sack of bones... are weak... too weak... they fall, they break a bone... so what is your point? Get off your complex.

Alright, I’ll make sure I tell them that cause they need to hear it.

@EmeraldJewel You don't have to... they know they are brittle! They don't need to hear it. Same as the overweight don't need to have a bunch of senseless discuss their "weakness" online.

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The (implied) "theory" that all overweight people "allowed themselves" to get that way is BS. It does apply to some, but not all. There are many reasons why it happens to some people. Interestingly, I read that some contestants on The Biggest Loser who lost massive amounts of weight are gaining it back despite maintaining lifestyle changes and exercise they learned on the show.

@Morganfreeman bullshit

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Anyone who thinks that has obviously never ventured outside their own safe little bubble, whether it was thru a voluntary choice or not. That point of view is short-sighted and lacks empathy.

Kat Level 5 July 10, 2018

Exactly!

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Being overweight only shows how the sugar and corn lobby won. They sweetened everything and told us for years fat was evil, not their overly sweetened product. Cut out sugar and people will be healthier, thinner, and more energetic.

dokala Level 7 July 10, 2018
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The classic argument of someone who has never been overweight. There are a million reasons why a person might be overweight and not a single one of them is helped by being fat shamed. Skinny doesn't necessarily equal healthy.

GwenC Level 7 July 10, 2018

Nope!

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Personally, I find slender people slightly unappealing body-wise. Not trying to be a body bigot (before some stupid ass takes offense). That's just my opinion about beauty. I think curves look better than bones. And I find I like men with a little weight on them too. A study a few years back concluded that women who were slightly over weight actually had longer life spans than women who were thin. Myself, I like having a little weight on my body. I also think that if you are "over weight" and are confident and love who you are, who gives a damn what anyone else thinks.

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I think this person over estimated quite a bit for 1 has a feww have already stated, some of us have genetics against us. If the person has some type of disorder which causes fat cells to produce more. Its not a fair statements from whomever said this. All people who are quote overweight all have different circumstances

Good answer.

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As someone who has lost 100lbs before. I can tell you that people that have been thin their whole life have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when it comes weight loss. I started a new job in a new city after I had lost the weight. The young thin people would talk bad about the bigger people all the time. I told them that I would much rather hangout with a bigger person than any of them 100 times out of 100. Seriously people lose weight only if you want to make yourself healthier and live longer. Never do it for vanity.

Well said! I agree with everything! It should be about health.

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It's really pathetic for people to believe that. Fat-shaming is cruel and ignorant. People come in all shapes and sizes and are large or small for all sorts of reasons. As a larger woman myself I spent years feeling I was ugly and weak because of my size. I can say now I've finally been able to embrace who I am, regardless of my size, and any decision I make about my body is based on my health and nothing else.

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Maybe being fit provides more discipline, but if one is never comfortable in their skin, all their work is for naught.

There are also health reasons that cause weight gain, same with emotional. So one person to say fat is weakness, means they are weak themselves and they just are projecting a shallow argument to validate their egos.

Body shaming, no matter what size is the true showing and meaning of weakness. Not the person's who are fat/skinny.

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I think overweight people must need to have strong knees and ankles. So it does not show weakness - quite the opposite.

Gareth Level 7 July 11, 2018

I maxed out the weight on the leg machines cause my legs are used to carrying 250+ pounds. Made the boys in school really angry lol.

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Their statement shows judgement.

Judge mental and stupid! I agree.

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If the overweight sits on your chest... you will understand the meaning of weakness.

Lol I like this answer.

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They should try carrying the weight of other people's judgements and expectations and see how strong they are. It takes WAY more strength to deal with all of the rude comments and fat shaming and disgusted stares and "I like you and we get along great but you are just too big for me"

That's real strength.

You are absolutely right! It does take a strong person to endure the abuse hateful people spew. I once worked the night shift for three years and gained weight cause when I’d go home at night, I couldn’t sleep cause I had to wind down then end up eating cause I’d get hungry again. When I finally got off the night shift, I tried almost all methods to shed the weight I gained for all the years of working nights and was unsuccessful. Mind you, at that time I couldn’t afford a gym memebership. One day when I was walking home from work, some neighbors I had been having problems with little brat kid was outside and the first thing she started screaming out was ,” My momma said you were overweight!” repeatedly as I walked passed the little brat until his mom skinny ass finally came outside and got him. I swear to god, no pun intended, I wanted to knock the shit out of the little brat and her mamma. Well...a few months did go by and I found out their trailer caught fire and it was bad enough they had to move and the skinny mamma last I heard lost her kids cause she was a methhead. It was so embarrassing to go through that so what you said is point on!!!

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Wow, fat shaming is rampant. Food has so many associations and so much baggage. If the answer were only so easy as simply more will power, more strength of character. The math is simple, eat more calories than you burn and you gain weight. The reality is food is wrapped up in mental health and emotions. Food is love, food is celebration, food is life. Yeah, every overweight person needs more judgement in their life. What would I say to your family members. I'd say "Fuck you. Take your judgement and stuff it down your pie hole and I hope you choke on it."

Yes our society has a completely unhealthy attitude towards food

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And none of these people ever had an illness that made them immobile, or took meds that cause weight gain, or comforted themselves with food? I say BS!

I do, too!

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and some of us get hurt and build a wall of fat as a defense to heartbreak

Exactly! But judgmental people can’t seen to grasp that.

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Sometimes it's your family that comes up with the most stupid shit. It hurts a lot more than hearing it from some random stranger. First, I'm suspicious of any idea applied as a generalization that covers all cases. Second, even if that's what you think, why broadcast it? What do you gain at the cost of hurting someone else? But finally, what exactly makes someone else's weight (or status, or any other characteristic) your business?

zeuser Level 9 July 11, 2018

Exactly!!!

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Fatness or leanness is not an indicator of health! I just read The Secret Life of Fat by Sylvia Tara, I highly recommend it to everyone.

I’ll check it out.

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I have an ulcerative colitis (Bowel disease), and as a result sometimes i get a poorly stomach. On occasions I have been on bouts of Prednisolone (steroids that make you incredibly hungry like never before). I am only 5 foot 9, and before this illness I weighed about 170 pounds. With the meds on and off for about 2 years I went up to 220 pounds (this is the heaviest I have ever weighed, and I was actually really fat), 18 months on I now weigh 190 pounds. Hoping that I won't need the steroids anymore and would love to get down to about 180 pounds. So I have lost 30 pounds but still look quite chubby, Never had an issue with my weight before this condition. There is nothing I can do about it, auto immune conditions fight you, not the other way round.

RobH86 Level 7 July 11, 2018

I can totally relate to the steroids. It sucks because they make you feel a lot better but, the appetite and the weight gain is horrible. I was diagnosed with lupus in 2000 and was put on high doses and gained about 65 pounds. Here I am 18 years later and I'm still struggling to get the last 40 off.

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