After living in Sacramento for the past 3 years I am making plans to move back to Missouri. It feels like going from one social extreme to the other extreme. Living in the Bible Belt is like stepping back in time after enjoying the diversity of California. However I am looking forward to enjoying the beauty of the Ozarks and especially gardening, food preserving, star gazing, and nights at the fire pit.
I live in a small town outside of Springfield. Never had any issues with the townfolks even when I had neon blue hair.
@Bahall You can take the girl out of the Ozarks but not the Ozarks out of the girl? Arent there equally attractive mountains in California? And how do you cope the hypocrisy encountered in bible country?
I've always said that Missouri (the Ozarks)is the only place I know of where you have to travel down in elevation to be in the mountains. I was still a believer the last time I lived there. So we will see...
@Bahall looks like you will need the support of this group. If 'heaven' is up then it sounds like your Ozarks may be 'hell'. ????
And you may even find a Unitarian Universalist fellowship that helps you find somewhat "like-minded" friends. I lived in North Carolina for many years and evangelicals often came to my door. They always wanted to sell their religion. UUism gave me an easy out. I already belonged to a "church". That way the evangelicals knew up front that I "was going to hell." Ha. I also spent much of my life in California but at that time I didn't feel the need to affiliate with any group. It was easy to find liberal friends there. : )
UU is the only church I've attended where I found like minded atheists...nice change
I recently left Oregon, hometown of Portland, to SW Virginiaβs (Appalachian) Blue Ridge Plateau. Geologically magnificent! Biodiversity, the same! Vistas and natural beauty, spectuar! US History, endless...
Lack of educationβ¦ Religious delusions, Self righteousness, Overt racism β¦ βSouthern Prideβ ..inability to speak American English β¦ painful..
Addendum.. Actually, thee reason I fled OR was itβs impending megathrust quake.. I considered the Ozarks, my motherβs from nearby, but not after researching the New Madrid EQ: [new-madrid.mo.us]
...not sure of itβs projected timeline, and nowhere near whatβs expected in the PNW, but it kept me moving ... through those beautiful rolling Ozark hills.. I know, LAβs EQ territory - but nothing like these two monsters ~
I'll deal with the Madrid later. thanks for the link. Appalachia is B E A U T I F U L. and a history nerds paradise.
@Varn it seems to be the world over. These religious hypocrites find a scenically beautiful place, think it heaven only for themselves and so start the exclusion of those with differing views. A little like snowflakes I guess.
@FrayedBear Yes, Iβve been wondering about that, it was called βthe urban rural splitβ back in Oregonβ¦ I grew up in Portland, then moved to my family homestead in a rural neighboring county. As Port became more progressive, the wrong-wingerβs fled to those counties and set up their personal compounds. I made progressive connections, but politically, the religious took over.. Moderate Rβs & Dβs were pushed out by fanatics. It was obvious, they couldnβt get along with people, and needed acres between...
And the drastically reduced cost of living I hope you're able to find some like-minded people there.
absolutely the cost of living will be a nice change from CA. I'm pretty good an finding like minded people. But they will be far and few between I think.
I am so sorry But then I am more than slightly biased against Missouri. For sure you will encounter much more of the backwoods religious types, but yes, simpler times. Good luck with that.
Thank you but why the bias?
Personal prejudice, some bad experiences in the area, long ago but painful enough that I'd never go back.
Give and take of the two areas. Where do you really want to be?
Ireland -
@Bahall When god was giving out the lands of the earth the Irish appeared before him and asked "What have you got?" God said "you can have Saudi Arabia " and the Irish asked "What has Saudi Arabia got?" God said "oil". The irish asked "Can you eat oil?" And god said "No" which is how the Irish ended up with Ireland, a Norman invasion followed by English rule, Catholicism, ignorance, a divided country and pig smuggling between the two countries. I'm also told that there are two states of weather in Ireland - raining with wind and raining without wind.
Seriously though I met some of the warmest friendliest people I have ever met when in Northern Ireland many years ago.