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How do you feel about the way the American government disregarded every treaty ever made with Native Americans?

How do you feel about history repeating itself by the US trying to back out of the promise they made to DACA recipients?

Tecolote 7 Feb 10
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I suspect that we are not near as good as we are taught.as we have aged, the historical truths have emerged. Not so good truths.

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Very angry. And now even more with the push against DACA. I know it's all about greed which to me is the most disgusting part. Why do people feel the need to have more money or power than anyone else. Why do you need more than you could ever spend. The worse part is we are the invasive ones here.

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In reminds me that American Exceptionalism is a big fat lie.

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I think everything our government has done over the last year is disgraceful.

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One is genocide the other is a application fee process to permanently DELAY ACTION upon CHILDHOOD ARRIVALS. ...nor comparable....though SOME are border dwellers like the Santa Ana troops surviving the mission to liberate slaves of the Alamo owners

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It's sad and pathetic how many of the citizens of this country are so blindly proud and patriotic of a nation that rarely upholds ANY of the treaties we enter into. We only uphold them hen it's in our best interest, then break them on a drop of a dime. No wonder we are laughed at and thought of as arrogant clueless bullies to the international community. Our lack of remembering history is disturbing and I honestly don't understand how any nation could possibly trust our government to keep their word.

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The more things change … the more they stay the same..

Varn Level 8 Feb 10, 2018
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Men in politics = hypocrisy
Let's get some more women in the govt and you may see some things change.

While having more women in government would be a good thing i must mention some exceptions: hillary clinton, barbra boxer, diana feinstein, shelia jackson lee, maxine waters, nancy pelosi, michelle obama.

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For me the American government has lost its credit already for a long time. How the later governments have dealt with the treaties, is not what the treaty parties had in mind. I'm sure. Not trustworthy at all, just facilitating the money for the rich and, that might be clear, for themselves in the first place.

Gert Level 7 Feb 10, 2018
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I completely agree with the sentiment of your post, but the government is not an entity that can break or even make promises, it is the people that americans elect into the government who make these decisions.

DACA would not even be a discussion if americans voted for the only sane person(woman) running in 2016

I don't agree. It's not just sentiment because it's the government that breaks treaties that a previous government made. Technically it is the government that concludes a treaty that it breaks many years later. It does not matter that there are other politicians that for that government. A government is a government in spite of who mans the chairs. When a government makes a treaty, it is obliged to stand for that, and not, because they have the physical power to abuse the counter-party, break that treaty that they made with the original inhabitants of this country. Breaking that, makes a government not-trustworthy. The Indians had the treaty on their side but still got run over.

My point though is that the government is not an entity - it is a group of people elected into office.

If you want to hate something hate the specific people that broke treaties not the government as a whole as that just invites anarchy which would be a hell of a lot worse!

If hillary clinton had been elected in 2016 we would be in far worse shape then we are now. she is one of the most corrupt person on the planet.

Since she is "the most corrupt person on the planet" I assume you can cite evidence to prove said corruption... right?

I agree we would be better off without rump but hill didn't win the primary and the DNC has admitted fraud so place the blame where it belongs on the DNC. And it will happen again if they don't change.

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Things that have happened in the past cannot change. History of the world is full of wars and racism, the world was a different place back then. Nevertheless, the least one can do now is apologize.

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I think the way we have treated the Native Americans has been disgraceful period. Through out history then Native Americans have had to tolerate our incursion on to the lands, the Trail of Tears, and when the get angry and fight back we slaughter them. Even now with them on Federally protected land we still have to tell them what they can and can't do, Keystone XL pipeline. Enough is enough. As for DACA it is also disgraceful. DACA is not expiring by the way. Trump unilaterally ended the program.

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My late partner was gluten free and we went this route while she was alive. Afterward I thought this was not me and stopped. We had a new bag of an expensive gluten-free flour and I gave it to a friend, who is part Native-American. Later I discovered I did have a problem with gluten and went to him and said "I hate to be an Indian..." then I stopped. Oops, he just looked at me. He returned the bag and I noticed he had written on the back "white-man giver"!!

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I was always very confused learning about this kind of stuff growing up. They told us what happened, but they never said how horrible it was, or how wrong, people shouldn't be treated that way...they didn't say much about how it affected people, beyond hitting the highlights from the history texts... and they never breathed a word about how today's descendants are coping with the injustices done to their ancestors. It freaked me out that we were taught that these awful, tragically unjust things were perpetrated by "our" government, but we had zero discussion about the morality and emotional impact of them. Like if the teacher told us one morning that our classmate's entire family had been brutally murdered last night, and then moved on with the lesson. It bothered me at first. With time and successive lessons over the years, I learned that that's just what history lessons are like, and I got used to it. But I'll never forget the feeling I had, as a little kid, learning about how the Native Americans were summarily destroyed. I still don't get it. I don't know how you can hear about such suffering, such injustice, and not weep in your soul. I might be the oddball.

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Same old story, the rich has always been stealing from the poor. Doesn't matter where in the world you look. Most recent in the US is the recent tax cut.

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Whitey's forked tongue!

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They suck, there was just a Facebook post showing them shooting the protesters and hosing them down in freezing temperatures from November or december.

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I'm not happy with anything relative to what we do around the world to this nature in our names! Unfortunately, Native Americans didn't help their cause much as they collaborated with the Europeans against each other in many instances to gain favoritism. Always leading to betrayals. Sadly, this means to control society, land, and resources never ends even with centuries of its engagement forced onto us. The world is blindly engulfed in it even today.

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Yet....the American government is blazing around the world, "trying" to help other regions' "peace" processes.....I got to think that those participants see right through their bullshit. They seem willing enough to accept the USA Taxpayers' money and weaponry though

twill Level 7 Feb 10, 2018

I hope that's sarcasm. Being we're not promoting peace anywhere.

@William_Mary ; Truly was sarcasm...note the quotation marks. Twas'n't I that created that mis-label (misnomer ?) (peace process) in the 1st place

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I am not sure I make a direct connect between these two issues beyond not fulfilling promises. I am still appalled about what happened with the pipeline issue last year especially with the recent leak

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Unsurprised.

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Redneck assholes.

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Very very angry. I'm not a native American but they were so mistreated by the government and white people, I have an especially deep hatred for Andrew Jackson and what he did to the native Americans.
P.S. I am of Irish and Slovak descent.

Had not my Great-great Choctaw Grandmother been forcibly marched west ..she’d never have ever met & married my Great-great Dutch Grandfather along the way… Treaties were broken, but Native Americans live on..

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Embarrassment and shame. I didn't do it, but it was done in my name. I support reparations and apologies.

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It's infuriating and embarrassing. One of my best friends has a fairly large percentage of native american blood in his ancestry. He rose through the ranks of the company he worked for and got more conservative as he did. He's nearing retirement and is now embracing his heritage and it's causing him some cognitive dissonance with his corporate side. He suggested I read
"An Indigenous People's History of the United States: Revisioning American History" and it was painful. It just made me angry. I'd recommend it if you want to find out what was left out in your American history books.

I think it was Rosie Sorels who coined the phrase "people's long memory". Utah Phillips frequently used it in his concerts, recordings and broadcasts, explaining it as "the part of history that the ruling classes didn't want remembered". There are many "long memories" safeguarded by people around the world. It worries me that many youngsters and their elders now shrug their shoulders and say "whatever". Like the dodo when it is gone it cannot be retrieved.

I learned a lot when I worked on the Navajo Reservation

@btroje Sounds like heritage knowledge to pass on through the "Passions"

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