Jerry DeWitt used to be a Pentecostal preacher. He now has a secular humanist church in Louisiana for those who need fellowship. I've never met Jerry but he is the first graduate of the clergy project and it was his videos on You Tube that allowed me to see the light. I got unconverted and could see clearly for the first time in my life. What makes it all real for me is to see how unreal the scriptures really are. Once you have a grasp of that you realize there is no written evidence. They changed and selected it and made it all up, sometimes over 300 years later.