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Your thoughts on erectile dysfunction?

Ho boy. I'll start. Sex is very important to me.

The first man with erectile dysfunction (ED) was so proud of his Viagra- induced erection, it lasted four hours. After 2-1/2 hours of lively sex, I was sore and orgasmed out.

“Stop pointing that thing at me,” I said. “Put it to use: hang a towel on it! I’m going to read in the living room.”

The last guy did not tell me he had ED in advance. I worked over him for an hour while he constantly collapsed and was semi-soft.

He kept making excuses: "I exercised too much, all my blood is in my stomach after eating, I didn’t sleep well last night," etc.

I thought it was my fault, that he was not attracted to me. It was a terrible experience for me.

“Stop making excuses,” I said, giving up. “Obviously, you have erectile dysfunction.”

He admitted his Cialis bottle was in his jacket. “I was trying to do it naturally.”

Even Cialis didn’t help because he takes less than half of a dose. The result: constant collapsing and semi-soft.

“Cialis make my head feel warm,” he complained repeatedly. Between the lousy sex and his poor communication, I decided we are not a match.

People say men with ED can please women in other ways. On what planet? In my experience, it is extremely rare for a man to care about a woman’s pleasure more than his own.

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LiterateHiker 9 Feb 4
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Count me in the group which says it's possible to have a very satisfying sexual experience WITHOUT an erection! There are so many ways to satisfy a lover...orally, manually, etc. If he's interested...you could show him some of them! If he's not interested...find someone else.

Edited to add that I was in a happily sexual relationship with a man for several years who had to have his prostate removed at a really young age. He had great orgasms, but no erections. We managed very well. It's all in the motivation and the creativity you want o bring to the issue. GOOD LUCK!

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There are men who have ED but are still extremely satisfied to know they can pleasure a woman in some way. Relationships should not be about only sex. The thing I've found is when a man loves a woman and wants her attention, he will work very hard to please her. When she realizes he is doing that for her - she is able to do turn the tables, and soon ED no longer becomes the formidable physical obstacle that both originally thought it was. I am not making this up. It's just hard to find that man - but they are out there.

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I am surprised that more men are not concerned about the side effects that can possibly be dangerous...including bursting blood vessels in the penis as well as in the brain (stroke) and heart...it is not anything in BIG print...for many men, being able to have a hard on is more important than possibly dyng...it also increases high blood pressure, hence the flush and hot feeling...

Look up purple penis...it is a real issue...

The alternative is oral sex for the woman with the use of toys...the foreplay for men can be fun, but finishing might not be an option...this is a man and woman issue, not just men...people need to discuss it openly to solve it happily...

While there are potential side effects to ANY medication or even natural therapy for that matter, when being prescribed by a healthcare professional, everything you mentioned is considered before sending out a script. I work for a urologic surgeon who specializes in cancer surgery and we see a LOT of ED patients. These medications are not prescribed before thoroughly assessing a patients compete medical history, and, when taken as prescribed, are extremely safe. Also, 'purple penis' can have many different causes completely unrelated to such medications. It is difficult enough for these men to seek treatment, please don't dissuade them with misinformation.

@Amzungu2 exactly

There are far worse medications available over the counter that a lot people take daily.

"""including bursting blood vessels . . . in the brain (stroke) and heart.."""

Should i infer that you think these are downsides?

@Amzungu2 Of course for many these drugs have helped many...but just as you mentioned that it is difficult for men to discuss, they are also loathe to report side effects...I am not trying to dissuade anyone and would think men considering medication are bright enough to ascertain the risks and discuss potential problems with their own physician and not take the anecdotal post as a reason to not seek help...despite a lengthy medical history, one of my partners was prescribed the drug and experienced an issue...with high blood pressure, the risk was higher yet he still chose this option...this is ONE story...literate hiker asked for views not medical advice...

"More important than possibly dying": OMG I started having serious doubts about aneurism-guy (see my comment elsewhere in this thread) when he wanted to start taking some shady Chinese herbal shit from a sex shop--on top of his Rx blood-pressure med(s), without first talking to his doctor about it--so he could maybe, hopefully get hard for me, despite the fact that I had not once complained about or sex life, and was nothing but accepting and supportive of his circumstances. Dude could have exploded his heart, had a stroke, I dunno. He thought that was totally okay. I started to think he was an idiot and a danger to himself. (We didn't stay together long after that.)

@stinkeye_a fortunately, that partner did talk to the doctor about his experience and decided that dying was not worth it with his health concerns...there are other ways to be sexually satisfied and ways to improve overall health...communication is important as is understanding and support...I support the medical community for the most part as long as they provide as much necessary information as needed to let us decided intelligently...but seriously, pushing medications is the norm these days...I am glad he did not have a serious outcome...a purple penis with a blown blood vessel is not funny except maybe in hindsight and a good outcome

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Toys, mouth, fingers and empathy.

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When I am with somebody, their pleasure comes first. Pleasing a woman orally is less stressful than worrying if the equipment works.

@GeorgeRocheleau

Hooray! Thanks for your empathy and kindness.

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Some experience here, and varied:

  • Pill-head, mid-thirties, couldn't get it up--blamed "circulation." Shitty kisser and asshole anyway. Didn't last long.

  • Congenital aneurism of the aorta, repaired with Dacron, and necessitating life-long blood pressure meds--didn't need to get it up, with the mouth on him. That was fun, but we weren't a match.

  • Early fifties: time for little blue helpers--usually, but not always--well-rounded, skilled, sensitive, and thoughtful, just needs a little help. No complaints.

ED is not necessarily a deal-breaker for me. Prohibitive shame and embarrassment around it is far more likely to be a deal breaker for me.

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First of all, I get the viagra guy. I mean, you get 4 hours, over 2-3 days. I would at least try for every minute of it, too! More seriously, as a nurse who works in the field, we use the term "chubby but not useful" and there are far more options for treating ED than just oral meds. Encourage your ED men to seek these out until they find one that is effective for them, and fulfilling for you, if you aren't shunning them altogether at this point. Communication is always key, but a little understanding and creativity can go a long way as well.

@Amzungu2

Thank you for your encouraging reply. The second man complained bitterly about "silent sex" with his wife for 30 years. Yet he refuses to communicate or speak during sex.

That's not me. I love sexy, titillating talk.

@LiterateHiker It doesn't seem like these guys were a good fit for you even outside of the ED issues. I guess part of my point is that should you find someone you're otherwise compatible with, be aware that most ED issues can be overcome if it's a shared priority and met with encouragement rather than disdain. It's HARD (pun intended) to get these guys to talk about it enough to even consider options, but with some patience and kid gloves, there are a lot of success stories out there.

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I can't help but think most men would love giving oral pleasure, or finding any number of other enjoyable stimulation. Could I over simplify this and suggest men of kindness, unselfish and generous spirit.

Believe it or not, most men I've been with either hate to reciprocate or don't know how to properly do it (or don't care).

@kiramea So? Show them! "Know what I'd really like us to try?"......."Wow...I really loved it when you did THIS." Etc. Demonstrate using your fingers. Or a toy. Be honest..."This isn't especially easy for me to talk about but I feel safe with you."

@LucyLoohoo I'm not an idiot. I Tried that. They would come back with "I know what you want better than you do".

After getting over that, I get dressed and leave. Now, I just leave; to hell with trying to make them a better lover.

@kiramea Sorry for you. "bye

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I can get to the place that I need to be but without some sort of stimulation, things start to go south. I am dating a lady who is out of a 51 year marriage who is very "excited" about wanting to catch up to what she has been missing all these years. I really, really want to make her happy and have gotten my first prescription of blue pills. I told her though, that there are other ways (touching and oral) that no matter how old, I will always be able to do. I hope through whatever happens, I make her happy and that she feels good afterwards.

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My last experience was similar to your second description. His long time wife had died almost a year prior - and I was the first one he was with since. Aside from being what I call a "radio knob" lover - turn these two, and tickle the lower switch before you get a program ... He will be remembered for being the worst lover I've ever had. He tried the viagra route - and even that was a failure. I tried to be patient and encouraging - but still no. He was healthy and fit - but he is also a super Christian - with the guilt trip - it was all in his head. Frustrating as all get out ! It's a tough situation for both involved. At this point, I'd rather be with a woman, than a drugged,struggling male. And no more Christians - uh-uh !

@evergreen

"Radio knob lover" is a great description! Sorry you went through that.

The second man was a spectacularly lousy lover. I had to teach him how to touch women at age 71. At first, he painfully poked and dug his fingers into me.

"Use an open hand with long, slow strokes," I said, demonstrating.

Also tried to teach him genital grooming. I carefully trimmed his 3-4" pubic hair, piling hairs in his hand. I wanted him to see how much hair came off.

@LiterateHiker And I like "spectacularly lousy" - oh, the terms some folks inspire !
3-4 in pubes ... yikes !

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I've never had that experience with a guy, but honestly I can say if a man was more concerned about that than what would give me pleasure, that that could be a stumbling block in our relationship. I'd be very sympathetic, but reassure him that he doesn't have to prove his physical prowess to me, that there are plenty of ways we could enjoy intimacy together. I would want him to be comfortable for himself more than proving something for me, so of course I would want him to get help to feel good about his body and what he could do, but I would love him regardless and wouldn't think any less of him because of failure to perform. If he cares about my pleasure regardless, that's just amazing.

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I don't normally discuss intimate personal topics publicly. I can't sit this one out though. I assure you some guys are more than willing to satisfy a woman without penetration. I will admit though that my intent in doing so was almost always to get to intercourse, but there were times when I did so because I enjoy it.

Don't think all men are inconsiderate pricks because of past experiences with selfish jerks.

JimG Level 8 Feb 4, 2019
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I have to agree with you (at least with the men I have had the displeasure of being in bed with).

At my age, I kind of expect men to have some kind of issue with ED. As long as I know ahead of time, I'm okay with it. It's when the men have it and somehow make it as if it's your fault he can't get it up, is where I have a problem with it. Also, if you have ED, learn how to please a woman with something other than your penis.

Actually just learn how to please a woman whether or not you have ED. It's not always all about you. By the way, overstimulation is just as bad as understimulation. If I say that's enough, trust me it is. I do NOT need to be rubbed raw just for your masculinity.

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That is pretty rude on their part, but i agree on whats been said below, male orgasms are easy, it's our job to get you as many as possible before we even start.

@JasonTomerlin2

Thank you.

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My pleasure is not an issue and is easy to obtain. My goal in any sexual encounter is to please. Maybe I'm just weird.

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Saw this today & it reminded me of your hilarious post:

@bigpawbullets

Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh.

LMAO

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I believe ED in nearly all cases (not all, but nearly all) is a function of poor health. Obesity and overweight are visible signs, high blood pressure, diabetes, metabolic syndrome and so on. Eat a non-inflammatory diet, keep the weight in check, exercise, don't abuse substances and most will be fine. Sadly this is ever-fewer Americans.

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I used to know someone who can get away with no bleep but he was a freaking unicorn.
There are other ways, but they have to be willing to set their ego aside and have enough of a personality, imagination, to get inside your head, and MEAN it.

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I don't about ED specifically, I'm young enough to not have had that problem, but then I don't think this post is really about ED.

Sometimes things don't work the way they're supposed to in the bedroom. No one has a flawless streak. Sometimes, no matter how badly you want it, even with younger parts, it isn't going to cooperate.

As a man, you come to believe this is some super shameful thing when it literally happens to everyone. Use the excuse to practice the alphabet on your SO and come back stronger next time.

You had me at ABC 😉

@pharmgirl If you get all your letters right on the first try, you rarely have to say them again. ???

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Until my wife and I had our health issues - sex was quite frequent and it was great. My wife had surgery that reduced her interest in the issue. Soon after, I went through my thing and while we both remember the days of old - there are more important things. Snuggling on the couch watching a movie, having a music night and watching videos of our grandchildren have turned into far more important and substantive times spent together than the sex. I'll admit that I miss it and I'm sure she does too - but the common interests not related to that have turned out to be more meaningful.

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Women get all weird and uptight when it comes to ED meds.
It’s a penis and sometimes it doesn’t work how it’s supposed to.
That’s it.
No secrets no mysteries.
Sometimes it just don’t work and any man that says different is a liar or isn’t old enough yet.

You can’t talk to most women about it for a variety of reasons.

Your problem isn’t men with ED. You just picked poorly, like most of us that are single still.

I'd suggest you find partners who are WOMEN....not little girls. We listen...we help...we find it very SEXY to help.

@LucyLoohoo I wasn’t referring to myself
I don’t have ED, yet
But I help men with it all day
And I help women understand it better

A lot of women find it frustrating and irritating. They also have problems with understanding why men want, need, take this medication

And most women don’t find it sexy to help
See the post that started this

Shifty of you to assume I date ‘girls’
Because I made a comment based off my personal experience

@darthfaja Apologies...I did think it was your op. There are ''women'' and there are ''girls.'' It sounds to me as if the originator needs to find some of the former and not the latter. Please don't take it personally if I clicked on the wrong name. If that hasn't happened to you....it will. We're all human.

@darthfaja

"You picked poorly." Don't blame me.

I was excited about Kirk (second man) because he is a fit, passionate hiker like me. He lives in my town. To my surprise, as a third-generation orchardist, he is a Democrat and atheist.

In my experience, most men can hold it together for about three weeks. Then the bad behavior comes out, the same bad behavior that killed their last relationships. Kirk fell apart at 3-1/2 weeks. Silly me, I tried to get him to communicate.

Years ago, I decided to give men a try out, once they met my initial screening. So I delayed sex with Kirk. Together we made signs and marched in the Women's March. He loved it. We enjoyed hiking together.

But the first time we had sex, it was terrible (as described). It went downhill from there.

Although Kirk complained bitterly about silent sex with his wife for 30 years, he give me the silent treatment in bed. Refused to talk. When I tried to resolve conflict with him, he stomped out. Twice.

I tried hard to make this relationship work. Kirk, not so much.

I asked Kirk if he would like to be friends and hiking partners. "Kirk is a blast to hike with," Karen said. Kirk agreed.

No sex. No romance. Hiking partners. I'm good with that.

@LiterateHiker I absolutely blame you, me, and everyone else that picks poorly

This isn’t about ED

This is about all of us that remain single
We can’t keep blaming everyone else
We are the ones responsible
Sure the partners we pick don’t work for us, but none of us can sit back and think we don’t somehow play a part of that problem.

Give men a try out?
Men can hold it together for 3.5 weeks?
Those are rather odd statements when looking for a partner.
In my experience American women have this enormous check list. Unfortunately I have found that they are more often based on negative things rather than positive things. “Don’t talk to me unless you are this this this or this! Oh and if you do this or that don’t even try me!”

Perhaps your expectations are very high, which is fine, however you may find it difficult to find a Unicorn.
That’s typically my problem. I’m looking for a combination that I likely won’t find.

Again this has absolutely nothing to do with ED and everything to do with the men you are with and your expectations.

@LucyLoohoo That kind of response makes us men appreciate women like you. Thanks for weighing in here...

@Santanaman9 Thanks for understanding my point! You reminded me of the first man I ever knew who had ED. He said "This separates the women from the girls." And, I think he was right. You need a certain experience in life to understand and ''work'' with the problem.

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Thankfully I am still able to perform without the need of aids or medicines... My number 1 goal is to please my lover to her satisfaction.

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My last partner has ED. He definitely made sure I was never unsatisfied. They might be unicorns, but those guys do exist.

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From what I have heard from women I also think it is, but I am happy to say I am one of those rarities. My last girlfriend took a really long time, so I would bring her to the edge with her toy and my mouth to make sure she got off when we started having sex. There is nothing better than cuming together.

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The wife thanks me every day for my sacrifice 🙂. Cialis can give me a bit of indigestion. Small nuisance.

I used to need it but now I get testosterone shots twice a week. I am a walking hard-on. I still use it on occasion just for fun. You can get the generic sildenafil for next to nothing.

@mooredolezal Yeah, so let me know when you're traveling south.

@Wildflower this is our second reason to meet!

@mooredolezal Yeah! You're awfully cute.

@Wildflower thank you you're very sweet. You know I was talking about yesterday though don't you?

@mooredolezal Ohhh. I missed you. 😟

@Wildflower do you remember now, about the two headed monster that you offered to show me how to use?

@mooredolezal I remember.

@Wildflower ?

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