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Do you think that religion of all sorts should be banned from Europe?

I know that there is something called freedom of religion, but what about my rights? I for one find it offensive when I walk passed a Church or Mosque or Ghudwhara or Synagogue. I feel it infringes my rights. What about you? (Please give me your thoughs in the comments)

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I can't get behind banning things. It also seems ridiculous to me that having to walk past a building infringes on your rights. It does not infringe on your rights anymore than gay people buying wedding cakes infringes the rights of evangelical christians. Unless they are stopping you on the street and trying to force you to go into said building, then no rights are being infringed. Unless they are confiscating your property to build a church on, or forcibly taking your money to fund the building, then your rights are not being interfered with.

Is religion generally a good thing? No, it is not. You could make that argument about all kinds of things. Tobacco, Alcohol, Pornography, Science Fiction, Rap Music, Punk Rock, Fast Food... all can be claimed to cause more harm than good. Should everything be banned? This is silly.

piphirho Level 5 Aug 31, 2018
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It could also be considered offensive for them to have an atheist walk by their building. About 12 years ago, I visited India and got to visit many ancient temples. The worshippers welcomed this long haired white dude to their holy places and to their homes. I made a huge gaffe by wearing leather boots when I walked a very holy mountain. The worst treatment I had was a crushed sugar cane drink at dusk on my my out of the city.

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Perhaps we could put up warning signs outside places of religious assembly, just as we put warnings on packs of cigarettes. Something like:

"WARNING! Religious beliefs can seriously damage your mental wellbeing!"

rcandlish Level 6 Aug 31, 2018
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I find it a little bizarre that someone would consider having to pass a building infringes on their rights. Maybe find an alternative route if you feel that strongly about it? Sounds like a bit of deliberate triggering going on there? 😊. As long as governments are secular individuals should be free to worship unicorns if they wish
😊

SimonCyrene Level 6 Aug 16, 2018
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I don't think raising a temple or mosque offends, hating and killing in the name of any god is. Extremism of any kind is unacceptable and offensive. Banning religion is also extreme to my opinion.

AngieF Level 2 Aug 15, 2018
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No, it wouldn't work, it would only drive them underground, and it would cause the moderates to become fanatics, and cause the fantices become even more extreme.

mikebank Level 2 Nov 16, 2017
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You can't ban ideas, even silly ones !! Anyway, Christians were banned in Rome and it didn't stop their movement growing, might even have helped ?

OutlawJosie Level 6 Nov 15, 2017
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I voted no.
The religious have the right to put up their buildings too. In fact, some of the old cathedrals are quite beautiful and are architectural marvels.

As much as I despise religions, they all might as well be worshipping Bozo The Clown as far as I'm concerned, but they still have their rights for now.

Paul628 Level 8 Nov 14, 2017
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England tried to ban certain religions. The king banned Catholicism and punished its practice with death. It didn't work. People practiced in private, they made secret songs and poems to identify themselves to each other. How do you think the Twelve Days of Christmas song came about? Banning religion simply doesn't work.

ErichZannIII Level 7 Nov 14, 2017
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Banning religion would just incite a violent response. Intensely violent. We know what happens when atheism is enforced; often, it just results in the kind of tyrannical regime that Europe has learned to avoid. Slowly but surely, religion is dying on its own. Let it. Europe will shine as a beacon to the rest of the world.

JosephHarrison Level 6 Nov 14, 2017
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That is a decision for the people or Europe.

wordywalt Level 8 Nov 14, 2017
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Ban all of them. Religion is a business and should be treated as a business subject to the same taxes, fees, rules, protocols, and laws as any other business.

Betty Level 7 Nov 14, 2017
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Part of me would love to ban it globally, BUT... if religion is the ONLY reason that some do not steal, abuse, rape, kill at will, I'll keep some religion. It would be nice if it was a somewhat watered down version that poses no threat to society, though.

Zster Level 7 Nov 14, 2017
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The notion that anyone would only attempt to be decent because they fear 'hell' is beyond strange to me, don't you fear other people? the law? are you not aware that he who lives by the sword dies by the sword? Just beyond weird to me, especially while politicians claim to be christians, i don't know what better example there is of amoral, lying sacks of shit than politicians, how can you look at that and be like, oh yeah, being religious is for morals? Bizarre.

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I think education is more important, if everyone received rational education, the churches would disappear. I'd be more inclined to support a ban on religious education in schools and religious programs in the media.

GothRik Level 6 Nov 14, 2017
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I am angry enough to think that banning religion would expose the religious for being the ignorant, sick, mentally unstable, racist, sexist, sheep-like zealots that they are... but that's like quitting something cold turkey. We need to bring a real philosophical dialogue and mindfulness back into popularity, we need to discuss the meaning of the words we use to gain common ground and normalize rational, personal philosophical inquiry, or at the very least dispose of the idea that heaven or nothingness awaits after death and get people caring about who and where they are right now and not just 'looking forward to retirement'.

JHeyoka Level 5 Nov 14, 2017
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I understand your anger and it is real and valid to you. I agree that people have been greatly hurt by religion and have been abused and neglected in various forms by its adherents. Venting and criticism is understandable and warranted. Yet, is the conclusion of that reasonable when it dictates and violates the conscience of others?

I was a Christian and Bible teacher for 30 years. I am now an atheist, and I criticize how religion ruins peoples' lives, freedom and our world. Religion and its bad ideas and abuses do deserve ridicule and criticism.

According to your statement, does that mean when I was a Christian I was "sick" and "mentally unstable", yet when I became an agnostic and atheist somehow through some means that left me? So that means that somehow I am now 'well'? Your assertion is an ad hominem attack and just as flawed as the religious who think atheists are immoral, hateful, evil and fools.

I can assure you that when I was a Christian I was ignorant regarding many issues, but I educated myself and became aware. I was a sexist before I even became a Christian, I learned that from 1960's USA culture. The teachings and example of Jesus showed me how women were to be respected and valued. I was raised to be a racist by my bigoted father in a secular home. I shed that when I was 14. I became a Christian at 20. So did I become a racist again by the influence of my religion? No. If anything, I protected my younger sister and her mixed-race children from my racist father, and stood up against 'minimal' racism among my peers.

Let's remember that as atheists and agnostics, we are a very small minority in this religious world. Going out of our way to make pointed personal attacks that we think believers deserve only reinforces any preexisting ideas they may have that atheists are hateful. Let's use science, reason and logic to make unbelief attractive. Kindness goes a long way, and it helps to break down walls that religious adherents put up against us.

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