Agreed. my wording was poor. .Half of my family was catholic and didn't believe the dogma. It was more a culture rhan brlief.The cousinsi my age are non-religious like me.

I agree that contributing to the cause is contributing to the mayhem the Catholic church has caused in the world.The imaginary powers vested in them like others in power is far more influencing a.ong the sheep.p Trump was a good example when half the country believed the unbelievable and didnt wear mssks.

Oh, I think the catholics are just as much to blame as the church leaders.
They continue to allow themselves to be led by scumbags.
They haven't risen up against the pedophile priests, the corruption of the church hierarchy, and told them, "NO MORE".

They are just as culpable.
They're continuing to finance this bullshit.

If you have leaders that are literally raping children, get caught for it and do nothing about it... your argument is invalid

I'm not inclined to dismiss all one billion Catholics as equally culpable for the Church's crimes. Kudos to Catholics For Choice (CFC) for being a voice of opposition to some of the worst policies. Politically, you win more when you can pull any willing factions to your side. If CFC supports contraceptives, abortion access, or Biden over Trump I'd gladly welcome them as allies.

It IS Catholics. Without followers, there would be no leaders.

Sorry, had to laugh at the term "reeked." It is true, this religion does strongly stink! Like so many rotten things the smell only grows stronger with time.

Catholic leaders don't exist without Catholics. You can't blame one without the other.
Same thing with Trump supporters and Trump.

You don't have "church Leaders" without church members following them blindly and advocating for and excusing what they say.
To try to say otherwise is to use the filthy old OLD excuse "I Vas Only Obeying Orders!"

If you don't agree with church policy stop giving them time and money and LEAVE the fucking church!

Ah but thr Catholics allow their church leaders to get away with everything you said. They don't demand change. They don't lose their misguided faith. Which makes them complicit.

I have to disagree because the sheep choose to be followers........no one is holding guns to their heads to do anything. Where is personal responsibility these days?

The same thing with the Trumptards on Jan. 6. Knowing they can’t defend themselves caught right on camera in the act of their criminal activities. But they blame their own “God” Trumpelthinskin for “making them do it”.

more on what I mentioned above.

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