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There is a rumor going around that the universe is nearly 14 billion years old and they figure this because the radiation from whats detected out there took that long to get here. so whats beyond that? is it space? if it is could that present the possibility that some radiation source could be farther away and it's radiation hasn't had enough time to get here?

hankster 9 July 19
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Since you consider the big bang "a rumor" there's no real conversation possible, get a couple of years of physics classes under your belt and we can have a brief discussion about relativity and I might decide differently.
You have to put some effort into this science thing, we can't just unfuck your opinions in a paragraph on a social platform that pretends to be a dating site.
However if you saw Thor Ragnarok then think of the diminutions as always being infinite by definition like Korg's freaky circle.

that kind of thinking just takes all fun out of it. since you think the "big bang" is really true, then your thinking on the matter is static, lifeless, and unimaginative.

@hankster I did ask you to go study a few years, by the time you catch up to where we are now we'll know a lot more.

@Willow_Wisp i doubt it.

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The real answer is that nobody knows, there are several versions of the Big Bang theory also of the Local Bubble Theory and the Constant State Theory, nothing is really decided finally yet.

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You’re right, hankster; it’s a rumor. Some people believe the rumor like it’s a religion.

After WW1 the astronomer Edwin Hubble believed the universe had no boundaries in either space or time. The Catholic priest Georges LeMaitre wanted to prove the Genesis story is true. He took an early hypothesis by Hubble, did some math, and found an almost 14 billion year number.

Charles Darwin’s evolution had taken the Adam and Eve story away from America’s xians and they wanted it back. They picked up LeMaitre’s story and haven’t let go of it.

Things got complicated after WW2 and to follow the story you’ll have to follow the money America spent to stay ahead of the Soviet Union. You’ll have tollow the money because the story follows the money.

When the Soviet Union fell, some of America’s money stopped flowing.

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When an observer looks into the far reaches of the Universe, the observer is looking back in time, with nothing that is older than 14 billion years ago. Nothing is beyond that. What one sees is the remnants of the Big Bang. The current physics models suggest that time itself developed along with other dimensions. If one considers time to be a dimension, it is as if one is at the north pole and is asked what is north of that.

how are they so sure nothing exist in all the space beyond where they have "observed". what does the edge of infinity look like?

or do you mean, "nothing" as in no space time?

@hankster Every once in a while an article will report a distant galaxy had been imaged and dated to 13 billion or so. Nothing older than 14 billion years have been reported (afaik).

Yes, nothing as in no space-time, no particles, no energy, seemingly no reality.

The edge of infinity would be the COBE map. COBE is the Cosmic Background Explorer which records the microwave spectrum. The astronomers figure that the microwave they recorded represented the residual glow from the end of the Big Bang. This residual flash was predicted to resemble the curve seen from a blackbody. Blackbody radiation is like the light curve coming from a red hot stove, or infrared incandescence. COBE looked for Big Bang flash, but cooled to the point of appearing as microwaves.

[en.wikipedia.org]

@racocn8 Howard, did COBE find an endless supply of “glow” out there at the edge of infinity, or will the glow eventually stop? ( grin )

@yvilletom I'd expect the glow will continue to shift to longer wavelengths depending on your time scale.

@racocn8 Ah, redshift. The edge of infinity was getting farther away from COBE.

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