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Decentcy of chivalry

Are there any decent ladies remaining in this world and why is chivalry dead?

AJimboShep82 7 Apr 27
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So let me extrapolate your meaning, you think that treating a woman with deference and respect is pointless if you're not going to get laid;or that if you are a nice guy, they owe you sex.

If I'm wrong I apologize, but the entitled assholes out there are making me, and all other regular assholes look bad.

JimG Level 8 Apr 28, 2018

No; I’m not saying I’m owed anything at all neither am I trolling here I am very frustrated from my experiences trying to even get a date and I run into a lot of hardships as does anyone of any gender for me it’s not about getting laid and playing the field maybe there just might be fucked up in my head that they are out to get me (dealt with issues of depression in the past ) and trying to treat anxiety and I do think that from an evolutionary stance we as humans need to procreate to survive and pass on our bloodline and maybe I’m not too skilled at getting dates hence my frustrations.

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There are plenty of decent men and women in this world and many of them are also quite civil and polite, however there does seem to be a slide in the level of civility and politeness of the general population. Provided the person you are dealing with wasn't raised in a barn by a pack of weasels it shouldn't be too difficult to meet civilized people with manners and provided you yourself are up to the standard you hold others to then you should have no issues. Work harder at being polite and civil, even if it isn't reciprocated, it's not a reflection upon you but upon them. Aim higher, if you want to soar with the eagles then it does you no good to hang out with a bunch of turkeys. Best of Luck to You.

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There ya go

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Allow me to clerify my question I posted earlier . 1. It was two separate questions and . 2. There may have been a few errors in grammar & spelling. On with first question is there any decent ladies out there ? From my experiences it may be few and far between allow me to demonstrate a few examples of why I may think this way that gives me a “bad taste in my mouth” example . 1. Ghosting when you think you have made a genuine connection and it would seem that it’s out of nowhere that you don’t see a reply back how decent Is that would it not be more decent just to say “sorry I’m not interested “and be done with it ? And example number.2. Again when you think you have made a genuine connection and you set up a date and they don’t show again how decent is this behaviour and in my opinion I think that both examples are pretty rude and for question number . 2. Is chivalry dead? I think it is just from the way when you open a door and you don’t get a thank you for it ; I hope this clerifies why I am highly frustrated and my question.

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i like to ask a lady for a hankie or a garter, and then engage in some protracted siege warfare against some Goths, maybe some Jutes or Saxons, depending on when were talking, then take a break for some jousting on horseback, then maybe jump off and finish a chump off with a mace or an axe. Then, a speech about grace and mercy to the serfs and rabble, before we all contract cholera or the plague, or ergotism, which is of course witchcraft, and so, the village or country must be punished in chivalric fury. There may also be Saracens and Moors afoot, so, its off for a decade or so of more plague/war. Thank youmfor the ribbon, fair damsel!

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Define 'decent.'

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What's the difference between chivalry and politeness? I go out of my way to try and be polite to everyone regardless of gender. What more has to be done to be chivalrous?
As far as there being "decent" ladies, I guess that to depends on how "decent" is being defined. I know several woman that come to mind when I think of decent people.
I feel that asking both of these questions together is maybe a display of frustration. That you are feeling as if you are giving a society your "chivalrous" behavior and you feel as if you deserve a "decent" lady in return. This is common in a lot of males in our culture, but it is not the way the world works any longer.

Yes I’m highly frustrated; decent from your experiences but not from mine

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What's decent about chivalry? It's all about taking power away from women. So, im ok with a man opening the door for me if he's ok with me opening the door for me.

Cheri Level 5 Apr 27, 2018

Chivalry was a fairplay thing I thought. How it got entangled with chauvinism is beyond me.

How does opening a door or offering a seat on a crowded bus take power away from women?

@Hicks66 how is chivalry a fair play thing? To say it's fair play indicates that women aren't capable of taking care of themselves.

@Cheri Again, you're focusing on chauvinism. Chivalry started with articles of war. White flags, ransoming of prisoners, duties of the strong to benefit the weak. Basically it started as a codification and limiting influence of toxic masculine behavior. It was a baby step to more civilized behavior. The romantic aspects later applied obscure the brutal origins. If Joans of Arc and Boudicca were the norm instead of anomalies then I'm sure the sexist aspects would have been less prevalent.

@Hicks66 "duties of the strong to benefit the weak." This is exactly what I find offencive. The point is that men believe that because women are physically weaker than some men means that men have to give them special treatment. It all comes from a part of humanity that I find most disgusting. We should all be in this together and work together. The fact that you think I'm so weak that I need someone to hold the door open for me is offencive.

@Cheri you are the one assigning gender to attributes. Make all the assumptions you want. I'll be over here when you're done.

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Chivalry is alive in pockets, but it is not what people think it is.
There are very many amazing wonderful women in the world.

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I've been married for nearly twenty years and I still open the door for my wife. Not because she can't open her own door just because I respect and love her. I have reverence for her for giving me six wonderful sons.

I teach my sons the same things. Respect and mutual admiration are the cornerstones of long happy relationships.

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You might want to read up on ALL the codes of chivalry. A lot of it had very little to do with "decency".
As far as there being "any decent ladies remaining in this world", there are plenty. You obviously haven't been looking in the right places.

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If, by "decent" you mean the conservative type women who actually want to settle down and have families, and like a man to take care of them?

You'll have better luck going after cis hetero women, as most of the women on this forum are androgyne (even if they're not aware of it) , thanks to their above average IQs, since most creative, high IQ people are mixed gender (androgyne).

I'm a partial transmale who lives as an androgyne woman, and I have enough male traits to feel insulted and outraged when a man tries to protect or help me, but my female side LOVES and prefers men who do this.

When I'm in male mode, I can't help myself trying to help women..walking on the outside of the sidewalk, opening doors, paying for stuff, which women quickly sense and start taking advantage of. For this reason, I hide my male side when around women and stick to my female mode side to avoid being manipulated.

You wot? I may not be hetero, but I'm very female, thanks.

@memorylikeasieve (sigh) I hate having keep to educating people on gender issues on this forum, so I'm saving this to post as needed.

There is no "real female." Humans are all on gender spectrums for gender traits, sexual orientation, and gender identity. In a study in 2014 where anonymity was guaranteed, 85% of people admitted occasional same sex attraction by percentage.

In another study where men and women were shown porn while cameras watched their pupils and other physical signs, women responded sexually to porn with ALL genders and gender mixes shown. Men, however had three groups; gay men who only responded to men, bi men who responded to both genders and hetero men who responded only to women.

One study showed that even the most "girlie" females only had about 80% of female traits, but they were most likely to produce offspring. However, people in the extreme ends of the gender spectrum..the most "macho" men and most "femme" females had the lowest IQs.

The average IQs rose as the gender sliding scale moved toward the middle, possibly because other gender studies show that male traits tend to be on the right hemisphere of the brain, while female traits are mostly on the left. That gives androgyne people more of the use of both brain hemispheres.

I am gender fluid and used to move between both gender orientations and points of view, which were radically different. I now take derris scandens, a Thai herb that somehow blends my gender sides so I now live as an androgyne female.

Most creative high IQ people are androgyne..mixed gender, even if they don't realize it. After all, my mom and sisters are more male in behavior and looks than I am, yet all identify fully as females, while I am partially transmale.

If you troll me, I will block you. I am tired of being attacked every time I post something on gender identity.

@birdingnut 'trolling' here having the meaning of 'disagreeing.' Your smug position does nothing to educate anyone about anything. I'm sure you've blocked half the people on this site by now, but sure, go ahead and add me to the mile long list. It'll spare me having to read any more of your unhinged blithering, you absolute head case. Get psychiatric help and stop thinking you're cleverer than the rest of the world just because you've left reality behind.

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It is medieval.

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I tried to be chivalrous but I couldn't afford a horse!

Athos Level 5 Apr 27, 2018
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