That's always been my recommended punishment of choice for slumlords... Let the rats deliver justice.... unfortunately, there's that pesky 8th Amendment.... Another fitting punishment would be locking him in a room with all the women he abused, while he's handcuffed, for say, a few hours....... I'm sure they could come up with some things to do to him..... Maybe some objects rammed up his ass and into his mouth??? Along with some fiddling with his genitals??

@TomMcGiverin That’s for sure. The mind can be creative!!

@Focus1 Maybe so. I know that many people in both groups, believers and non believers, include plenty of assholes, phonies, and predators, along with plenty of good people. So to me, labels are way less important at the individual level, and I look at the behavior rather than the rhetoric, from both believers and non-believers.

Hope he gets Bubba as a cellmate.. and gets asked, " Do you want to be the husband or the wife?"...

@TomMcGiverin I hope bubba picks husband.

The moment a nation 'turns vindictive' that nation is corrupted.

You have laws. The laws specify the penalties for particular crimes. Those penalties are then applied equally to all who break those laws. No 'other factors' outside the strict, and legally defined, statement of law should play any part.

@ToakReon This nation HAS been corrupted for a very long time.
I know we have laws, which not that many follow.
Punishment is most definitely not dispensed equally. Not by a long shot.

In this particular case, the likelihood that actual justice for his crimes and victims will be the result, is marginal.
His victims are female prison inmates, usually considered as less-than by most of society.
His status as clergy will likely be a factor in, what is likely to be, whether he is even convicted.
Our "Justice" system is horribly broken.

I feel my reaction is reasonable.
Further, it's not like I have any power to mete out his punishment.
If he is convicted and sentenced to prison, I can only hope he finds himself on the receiving end of some prison justice.

If you think that makes me a bad person,
I'm certain I will manage to live with the disappointment.

@KKGator Yes, the justice system is flawed. Yes, the justice system isn't applied fairly. Quite right, and that's unacceptable.

But the solution is to improve the justice system so that the flaws are corrected, and so that it is applied fairly - not to introduce yet more flaws and unfairnesses by declaring that personal indignation should mean some people are treated differently from others for the same crime.

We agree the system is far from perfect - where we disagree is the nature of the justice system we should be aiming to create.

@ToakReon You sure jumped to a whole bunch of unsubstantiated conclusions based on nothing but me expressing frustration.

There is nothing civilized about the victimization of of people. Whether it's government sanctioned, or not.

@KKGator It's you who said the words "shouldn't be protected by the' cruel and unusual' clause", "assholes like him make 'an eye for an eye' a good idea" and "he should suffer mightily" - and I am the one jumping to conclusions when I mention "introducing yet more flaws and unfairness by declaring that personal indignation should mean some people are treated differently from others for the same crime"?

You're right. There is nothing civilized about the victimization of people - even if they're assholes. So that is why a civilized society, if it has protections, should apply them fairly to all - even assholes. Why "an eye for an eye" is never acceptable - even for assholes. Why "suffering mightily" should not be the special fate of assholes.

The law must be fair and equal to all - however obnoxious they may be.

@ToakReon We're not civilized.
That's yet another myth too many people believe.

I don't agree with much if your response.
Society doesn't care enough to fix what's wrong with it, on nearly every level.

@KKGator You're quite right. We're not civilized.

Yet how do we react to that? Do we strive for civilization? Of do we just say "Fuck it. I'm going to be as uncivilized as everyone else"?

If no-one strives for civilization there is no hope. I want civilization, and even if the quest proves futile I am determined it will not be because of me.

@KKGator I agree with you, my conscience would get along just fine with the disapproval of others for my views or for this monster getting what he really deserves...

@KKGator, @ToakReon Your arguments are merely justifications for maintaining the status quo, which I find unacceptable and not worthy of defending. Not you, KKGator, the comment system mistakenly included you in my reply.

@ToakReon, @KKGator If society cared enough to fix it, it would have been fixed long ago, and that's why it will never be fixed, within my lifetime or after. Same with this comment, KKGator.... Accidentally included you...

This whole argument between you and KKGator reminds me of the apologists for the bare-knuckled, heartless cruel capitalism we have in America who oppose socialism because they say socialism is too extreme, unfair, and that capitalism can be and will be eventually reformed, right? Well, it never has been in my lifetime and it's obvious that it has only been getting worse over my life. So why should I continue to support the legitimacy of our current justice system? Because we all know it will never be reformed the way you are claiming it can be and eventually will be.....In the meantime, I will settle for our system giving up as much protection as possible against the strong, powerful, and evil who prey on the weak, the innocent, and the powerless, and hope for the best from our present system, but I won't have any faith or respect for it...

@TomMcGiverin Let us leave it at this. I don't see much chance of further discussion serving any valid purpose for either of us.

@ToakReon Well duh...