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On the topic of group dynamics: The evolved instinct for our species to maintain group divisions will most definitely be our downfall. In the past it may have served as a check on over-population as when tensions rose we responded with our evolved instinct to eradicate those not belonging to the group; but with the rise of global capitalism, such wars will increasingly become less common as the condition of "peace" serves the interests of those who own the rights to exploit the world's resources. And we'll end up causing total collapse of our ecosystems in the process. But all these divided corporate interests are not seriously considering how many people will starve to death when this happens. They obey their own insular group dynamics as well. There unfortunately is no effective supraorganization planning for the inevitable. The UN, WHO, etc. have all been infiltrated by the controlling interests & have largely become ineffective. We must take seriously the need to create our own supraorganization of existing groups of environmentalists, dedicated scientists, concerned citizens, radical corporations & radical politicians to tackle this head-on. But how to get them talking to each other & attempting to form such a group?

Nunya 6 Apr 18
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To err is human. We do a lot less than we have in the past, because we have created structures that transcend family group competition. You can't tell me recent (i.e. historical) human behavior is all evolutionary psychology.

neutralite Level 5 Apr 19, 2020
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They exist. NGOs in diff. countries... Look at Telesur news..

Krish55 Level 8 Apr 19, 2020

Yes, they do. What I argue for is for these separate organizations to form a supraorganization to have the power needed to combat the seriousness of the global crisis.

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Interesting post and comments...lets see how far it goes...😎

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I think money talks, & people have to start really promoting group funding for companies that have solutions. There needs to be a formation & promotion of a global non-profit whose goal it is to find the companies with the best solutions to the world's problems & aggressively promote said companies & seek donations to make grants to build them up. There are many good start-ups that cannot get enough capital raised simply because it would disrupt the incomes of those who hold the power in a particular industrial sector. In addition to this, they are in essence black listed by governments who answer to those industries that hold said power. Protests are not going to solve this problem. Again, money talks, & the average Joe needs to start donating to those who are willing to provide actual solutions. I donate to all the campaign funds of the "radical socialist populists" running for office in the U.S. & they are starting to build effective systems of organization to promote their cause & share & advocate for donations & support for each other. It would be beneficial if a similar network of radical corporations were formed & they advocated for one another as well - but as corporations compete aggressively, this would likely have to be replaced by a non-profit that does this advocacy on their behalf. Then companies with solutions could compete for the non-profit's endorsement & business grants. There are such organizations already in place, but just as the radical politicians are doing, they need to join forces & create a supraorganization to effectively tackle this enormous problem.

Nunya Level 6 Apr 18, 2020

I agree with your concerns but find no future for an organization capable of solving the problem. The key to change is education. To build a populous able to think for themselves and not simply drink the cool-aid sold to them by the pseudo democratic now more of an autocratic plutocracy.

@NoMagicCookie Yeah, well, it's my personal opinion that the ability to think for oneself is more a function of innate intelligence than of education. So good luck with that having any kind of tremendous effect. I'm not saying our system of education doesn't need significant improvement, but education really indoctrinates people into a paradigm of thinking - programming a world view rather than imparting any ability to analyze complex & diverging sources of information.

@NoMagicCookie Look no further than your classroom to provide proof of that. I went to a small school, so about 30 kids take all the same classes together with all the same teachers. What each actually learns at the end of the school year differs dramatically, and in many years was measured by year end comprehensive achievement tests. I.Q.'s were estimated from the results of these tests. There was a very wide distribution. And before you argue that what a child learns at home is the causative factor, I'd like to share that I always had one of the highest I.Q.'s in the school system & my mother was barely literate & definitely in possesion of a completely average I.Q. So, I wasn't learning anything useful at home, or anywhere other than school.

@Nunya Congratulations as unlike many who shared your classroom, you appear to have risen from the quagmire of ignorance and blossomed into the world of enlightenment; despite not being in a class that failed to teach your classmates to exercise your higher level of thinking skeptically thus giving you a higher level of understanding and superior ability to critically evaluate the world.

How in the world (pun intended) do you define ". . . - programming a world view - - " I honestly don't understand your usage of "world view" means; as apposed to what, a non-world view? Be specific, with details that make sense in your argument. If you define world view as the way we look at things, this would add zero clarity to your argument.

I teach science. In science I stress the importance of being able to demonstrate claims with testable evidence. Students are tasked to research their projects then perform experiments that demonstrate (and/or support with sufficient recognized peer-reviewed sources) then present and defend their projects. I allow them to examine all available sources for their projects (wild west internet has all kinds of junk) but show them how to question their sources. They often discover and share -to classmates- they found some sources that are not credible. How is this "really indoctrinates people into a paradigm of thinking - programming a world view rather than imparting any ability to analyze complex & diverging sources of information."?

I'll grant you we are not all born with the same cognitive ability. I never asserted we were. I simply stated our best hope for a rational future was through education. I did not intend the use of the word education to be restricted to formal public or private schools - Yes, there are many (in the states, what appears to be a small vocal majority) of cognitively impaired tRump supporting theists who suckle the tits of their Right-wing propaganda and church faith (belief without evidence) based set of flawed tools that poison their ability to question and accurately understand reality. My point is we need to inoculate as many as we can with ability to question such BS assertions.

Guess this leads is to the which came first problem the chicken or the egg? Teach to inform so informed people can build a non-profit (supported by those informed) or build a non-profit to teach the masses to work in their collective best interest.

@NoMagicCookie Honey, they did teach "critical thinking skills" - continuously. Just very few of the students were actually capable of comprehending what was being conveyed & putting it into practice. I get so sick of the educational system's emphasis on "teaching critical thinking." It just flat out doesn't work for most kids. In my opinion, the school system needs to tailor the methodology to each individual child's aptitude - this could be accomplished by designing virtual education to meet each child's skill level & intelligence level. The "teacher" would then function as more of a tutor - going around to answer each child's questions & give help & advice as they progress through their particular program of learning. What I experienced was a whole bunch of kids falling behind to the point where it was impossible for them to "catch up" so they just gave up & did poorly in school their entire lives. This does no great service to those children. We are born with certain innate aptitudes to learn & comprehend. That needs to be taken into account to truly provide each child with an adequate education that will benefit them in adulthood.

@NoMagicCookie I'm not even going to clarify how the educational system programs paradigm. If that's truly a mystery to you, you can read my separate post on the subject.

@NoMagicCookie I am arguing the masses cannot be taught. In the school sytem where I grew up, the vast majority of students took as few science courses as they could - after gradeschool, we were introduced to a number of electives to choose from each year. The more intelligent & naturally scientifically minded students self-selected to take the science courses. By being a science teacher, you are teaching those who possess the ability to understand, because they would not have elected to take your course had they not been interested in science & the scientific method, AND, innately able to comprehend its tenets.

@NoMagicCookie The vast majority of students took the "easiest" courses, as evidenced by those courses having the highest number of teachers. The science teachers were always the fewest in number. And honestly, I think that worked to each student's benefit. Because forcing a child to fail a science course over & over does absolutely nothing to aid their ability to support themselves as an adult. Teaching such children a practical skill, such as welding, carpentry, office skills, cooking, farming, etc. at least provides them with a usable skill set. And that's exactly what my school system did, beginning in middle school. I have no idea how it works in the district/state where you teach.

@NoMagicCookie I mean, so many students failed basic algebra in my middle school, that it was the only required math course to progress to high school. That way, the students had 6 semesters to pass it. Each time they failed it, it simply took the place of an elective & therefore did not effect their ability to pass on to high-school. So you honestly think you can teach such people science? I mean, one of my best friends failed it three times & she was incredibly gifted in art & literature. And in high-school, those were the classes she took, because only second year algebra was required to graduate from the high-school. And she failed that one a couple of times as well. But she got straight A's in English & art. I'm providing this example to hopefully demonstrate that all brains are not created equal & many people simply cannot analyze complex scientific issues effectively - no matter how much critical thinking is emphasized in our schools.

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