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"How Genghis Khan Cooled The Planet ...

In 1206 AD Genghis Khan began the Mongol invasion: a horse-crazed bow-wielding military force that swept through much of modern-day Asia into the Middle East and Eastern Europe. But aside from creating the world’s largest empire, the Mongol invasion had another global impact that has remained hidden in history according to new research by Julia Pongratz of the Carnegie Institution’s Department of Global Ecology. Genghis Khan and his empire, which lasted nearly two centuries, actually cooled the Earth."

Question: What do you feel about the threat and (sometimes) actual fact of animal (or even human) extinction?

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How do I feel? Conflicted!

altschmerz Level 9 Dec 26, 2019

Hard fact: anything that significantly reduces the human population will contribute to the reversal of global warming. Through overpopulation, unbridled capitalism, lust for power, and general greed and selfishness, humanity will almost certainly bring about the inadvertent reduction of its own population, if not its own outright extinction. That, in turn, will mitigate the destruction caused by climate change, although it will take quite a while. So, yay for us? Blech.

dan325 Level 8 Dec 26, 2019

I read a long time ago that Mongols believed they had an obligation to make room for themselves in the world by taking another person out.

brentan Level 8 Dec 26, 2019

Wow ... I've noticed that being mentioned too. Do you know the source of that information ?

Sadly, no, it's too long ago. I must google and see if I can find a source.


I read somewhere the same type of thing happened when such a large portion of the people in North America died from disease after the first Europeans visited.

MsAl Level 7 Dec 26, 2019

Fascinating yet sorrowful!

"An estimated 10 percent of the global population was wiped out. ... Colonization of Americas Led to so Much Death It Caused a Period of Global Cooling ... 1492 brought diseases to the Americas which devastated the native population ... Yet it is the first time the Americas were linked to the rest of the world"
The story I heard was about how we always say the Europeans slaughtered all the Native Americans, but the reality was that they showed up to empty villages and pre-cleared farmland because an estimated 90% of the local population had recently died due to disease brought by the previous wave of visitors. And it was then quite easy for them to conquer the rest because they were already completely decimated.


Interesting in a couple of ways. One, the impact on climate. Two, something we in the west are exposed to from a young age and don't even realize it: The racist and condescending characterization of non-westerner's. Genghis Kahn was one of the great rulers in history and a military genius; his tactics are still used today. He established one of the largest empires in world history. Had he chosen to do so, could have taken Europe. This isn't "crazed hordes."

Mitch07102 Level 8 Dec 26, 2019

Yes, the Mongols were well trained, physically and psychologically. And their logic included being merciful to those who surrendered to them. It may not have felt like freedom to the conquered, but there were various Mongol generals who truly respected or valued their conquered subjects.


Wow never knew that

bobwjr Level 9 Dec 26, 2019

Neither did I until today!

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