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A true opinion on 2020 society's degeneration?

"People who hold a different point of view are not simply treated as wrong, but as evil beings who require cancelling. For many commentators and activists, it is impossible to think differently in good faith.

To express a different opinion means you must be either an idiot, a bad person, or willing to be bribed to broadcast the vile ideas of others.

Science is about the constant challenging of assumptions and received wisdom through looking for weaknesses in existing theories and testing hypotheses about how those theories could be improved or even overthrown. But that has been undermined by the attitude of many scientists, politicians and campaigners in recent years, The message to critics of mainstream policy has been “This is the science, now shut the f**k up.” If that arrogant attitude took a dent in 2020, that’s great news."

Freedom’s now a dirty word, safety trumps liberty, & we can’t have civilised debates: 6 ways that Covid has changed us entirely [rt.com]

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It's been happening since before COVID. I can remember 4 years ago and even before that where both sides were calling people who didn't go along with their biased partisan narratives all kinds of names and dismissed evidence to the contrary. It's probably been ramping up since neo-conservatism and neo-liberalism came on to the scene. It got a dose of steroids after Russiagate. If you point out a fact or even just give an opinion that doesn't fit with a certain narrative then people will smear you and mislabel you. If I say 99% bad things about Trump then Dems will agree with me and welcome me with open arms. If I speak my mind about that 1% that I disagree with them on then I'm a Russian paid shill or I'm a Trump supporter or a far right winger. Same thing with a lot of Reps if I say anything that is in line with socialism or even just social programs that are "socialism" and they will call me an evil communist. Add to all of that people's ignorance on what the political spectrum actually is and it's a minefield trying to have a discussion about politics. I think it was always like this to an extent, but it just seems so much worse now. That means the propaganda is probably working better than it used to.

Yeah I got thrown out of the Trump Pinata for the same reason.

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I can clearly see that one side could be right while the other is wrong. Sometimes you can't keep your mouth shut when you know that there are group of people doing definite harm. Whether it's a gang beating somebody up or a political group destroying out planet only for their own profit. If you see somebody kicking a cat, do you speak up about it?

OldGoat43 Level 9 Dec 24, 2020

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Martin Niemöller

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Sometimes it is impossible to think differently in good faith, and the supposition that's not true or that all points of view are equally valid is the reason I believe we're in this mess.

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agree 100%.
according to the UN global warming scientists (1989) the melting polar ice-caps were supposed to have melted by now & flooded coastal cities,

Has anyone taken a good look at Maryland lately? Whole towns have gone under.

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