Can you tell me just what Sander is? Look at his voting record for war, Israel, drone attacks, etc. I can't tell. Support for Clinton after complaining she's part of wall street and our problem. Then supporting the false Russian narrative for her. Establishment is establishment. That's all I see in Sanders now. A con artist.

@jorj, @William_Mary He is not right wing. He is a socialist, claims to be independent and caucuses with Democrats.

@Rob1948, @jorj I think you just made my case. Why can't you see that? Please see above. His voting record overrides his rhetoric! His actions override his rhetoric. He spent decades providing us a false imagine of what he stood for. When it mattered most, he supported the establishment who serve the oligarchy. Still working with them. Case closed. Duck! His lame excuses of voting for bad bills, "because it has some good things in it" went to the pond with him. Now he can drown with them.

@William_Mary most of his voting record is leftist. One issue you do not like does not make him lean right. At least he is not dogmatic on every issue (and I don’t support him in any case).

@Rob1948 which way is the country moving? He's helping that movement with compliance to the establishment. Who does the establishment serve? In what direction do the oligarchs seem to be taking us? Whether it's Trump or the republican party before Trump came along, we have been moving to the right. Under people like Ryan, towards nationalism with the signs of fascism. I give you Steve Bannon. Who has taken his movement to Europe which has also been moving this direction. This isn't just a coincidence, it's by design. Take the labels out and you might get a completely different view! [caitlinjohnstone.com]

@William_Mary the direction the country is moving politically has nothing to do with which direct Sanders is leaning, which is what we were discussing.

@Rob1948 that's exactly what I'm talking about. Maybe you just want to avoid talking about it?

@William_Mary I have no interest in that discussion as I’m a moderate and don’t care for extremes. That said, this thread is about Superdelegates and about Sanders in that context. If the thread author does not mind you hijacking the thread, go for it. Otherwise, you might be better off starting your own thread and defining the parameters thereto.

@Rob1948 your attention span is quite disturbing. It's beginning to lead me towards understanding your lack of ability to relate other aspects of politics, in this case, a politician, to more than just the the subject at hand. Being political issues are so diverse. Which is why you refuse to see the right leaning tendencies of Sanders to be a measure to evaluate. jorj brought into the discussion of right leading when he claimed "Bernie doesn't stand for right wing policy." That is merely an opening for me to announce that Sanders does display right wing tendencies. Whether you want to agree with that is your choice, whether be it to reflect on as a possible conclusion, or debate its semantics. As far as the thread goes, you might want to scroll up and take a look at the original posters name and then compare it to mine. You might find they are the same. I had no problem with your reply that lacks any real substance to the threads intended inquiry towards the DNC actions. Being I find your reply to be simple democratic partisan rhetoric that was used during the primary to degrade Sanders run in 2016. Yet you want to attempt to belittle me for simply adding another opinion as I follow through on the path the discussion was leaning us towards. Parameters!?! For one to set parameters within such a diverse topic as politics as you would seem to want placed, open discussion and opinions are therefore voided in many cases. In which my intended goal for this group would be useless and could be seen as a mere attempt to a type of dictatorship. Yes, not only did I start this thread, I am also the group owner. I am also the original thread starter of probably over 99% of the post here. If I was to set any standards of parameters here, my goal to share independent news sources to draw people out of the illusion of the main stream medias biased fake news would be contradictory. I would then be guilty of attempting to provide the same manage perception leading to a controlled attention span you now have me thinking you may be trapped in. I have no intentions to control what people here can say while sharing their opinions, or while redeveloping their opinions, which is my main cause here. As I attempt to draw people away from the empire building the westernized coalition is conducting and using us for.