What if I told you that the impeachment hearings are.....
ROBERT PARRY: Cheering a ‘Democratic’ Coup in Ukraine
The revival of some of the worst anti-Russian, Cold War rhetoric has been heard in the impeachment hearings on Capitol Hill. What hasn’t been heard, in a bi-partisan cover-up, is talk of the opening act of this political drama, which started the entire mess in Ukraine, as explained by our founding editor Robert Parry as the events were still unfolding.
{But Yanukovych sought to maintain cordial relations with neighboring Russia, which apparently rubbed American neocons the wrong way.}
Volodymyr Zelensky just has a meeting with Putin to ease the war in Eastern Ukraine and conduct prisoner trades. Later the 2 meeting with 3 other European PM's. Rub that one out boys.
{So, Putin found himself in the center of the neocons’ bulls-eye and given some of his own unforced errors such as defending Russia’s intolerance toward gays and spending excessively on the Sochi Olympics he became the latest “designated villain,” denounced and ridiculed across the neocon-dominated op-ed pages of the Washington Post and other major news outlets.}
Let the conditioning from manufactured narratives begin.
{In the upside-down world that has become the U.S. news media, the democratically elected president was a dictator and the coup makers who overthrew the popularly chosen leader were “pro-democracy” activists.}
And this is what you end up getting. Can I get a, Hong Kong?
{Though the capital Kiev sits in a region dominated by the western Ukrainians, the Russian-allied Ukrainians represent most of the population, explaining Yanukovych’s electoral victory.}
This is the key to understanding Ukraine, and Crimea. Eastern Ukraine is predominately Russian allied Russian speaking citizens. After the neocon fascist take over they waged a genocide agenda against Eastern Ukraine our media labeled as a Russian invasion. Same as with Crimea which I have posted they voted to rejoin Russia. Since then there was also a split in 2 secular Christian religions that once operated side by side that played into this quagmire also. Both having their own Pope like entity that go back centuries. I say split because the Russian orthodox was forced out of Western Ukraine from being allowed to exist.
{In these cases, it is typical for the mainstream U.S. news media to obsess over perceived flaws in the ousted leaders. On Wednesday, for instance, The New York Times made much of an unfinished presidential palace in Ukraine, calling it “a fugitive leader’s folly.” The idea seems to be to cement in the minds of impressionable Americans that it is okay for the U.S. government to support the overthrow of democratically elected presidents if they have flaws.}
Impressionable Americans can also be conditioned within fake impeachment hearings where all the major details of this issue are left out, a cherry picked 1 or 2 can be used against a manufactured enemy. That impressionable populace having relatively no knowledge of 2014 events and the previous administrations involvement can easily be managed as the original accusations can also be applied to both administrations. Ending not on those accusations but other indictments that also can be applied to both administrations.
.....really about getting Trump reelected again.
A reoccurring theme is being played out in a couple of arenas I've noticed. On calls coming into NPR shows and comments on both social media and the sites I use. That being of people who are more aware of the history of this issue on the democrats mockery of the use of impeachment to white wash both parties involvement. They are giving more credit to the republicans despite their failure to expose all facts. With the election cycle of 2016 also often being referred to, this added on is their last straw in confidence to hold them (democrats) as reliable representation. Coming from both democratic and republican supporters, then independents, the democratic party is pushing out more supporters. They are drastically fueling Trump supporters! And it doesn't matter if they are totally ignorant to the facts or not, there's no chance in hell they can be persuaded now to withdraw their support.
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DenoPenno
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Dec 15, 2019
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They're here.
Damnit! Your posts are so fucking depressing! For 20 years many have known the level of corruption in both parties. The perfect example was back in the 2004 having a conversation with my twin, younger sister and my mom. I was stating facts, my younger sister was stating facts, we KNEW shit was about to hit the fan, yet my twin takes it personal and can not see what is going on and get all upset claiming we're attacking her. Mom who is clueless says to stopping picking on your sister. My kid sister and I are still on the same page and my twin thinks trump is doing a great job (his moral issues, lying and cheating do bother her but not enough).
Short of some major crisis I don't see how were are going to get rid of these two parties.
silverotter11
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Dec 15, 2019
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That's the very problem we are faced with today. In 2016 many thought the republicans were going to run Trump out of DC or keep him on a short leash if he attempted to do half the shit he has been doing. I told you so doesn't quite make me feel any better though. I seen them drooling at the mouth from the gate. And what the democrats are doing is feeding his supporters and the republican party the reasons to keep supporting him and move on with their agenda people like you and I knew was there from the beginning. What few have turned way, which is few, have been revitalized by the democratic party's actions. It will be a nothing short of a miracle for the democrats to win in 2020. Not that it would be any better.
There is however a conspiracy going on now about some major events about to take place. It has to do with Trump's Space Force program. Which just got funded in the recent spending bill passing. Some recent patents having been applied for and acquired by the military on new technology involving space crafts and space travel. This technology also has the means to make life on this planet much better and cleaner if properly applied, not used as a profit generator.
This Barbara Barrett [en.wikipedia.org] and a representative from Alabama, I think it is, are trying to get some documents declassified on our interactions with aliens and a space program that's been operating for some time. I've been following Ancient Aliens for over 20 years and pour a vast amount of time in government cover ups. With the recent release of the 2004 air force videos and others , I think the lid is about to pop on all this. According to insiders this is going to depend on the Trump impeachment hearings and his reelection. But if you relate Trump's uncle John to all this and the theft of Tesla's work by him and the OSS it begins to add up. But I have a good deal of pause to give Trump any credit of good to come out of anything!
Being this is such a far out there issue by most in society I'll quit there. But I've from 2016 have had the conjecture that Trump was planted on us for a reason. Maybe this is it? I'm just a nut with an overactive mind 
though. Some of the stuff I recently viewed don't quite add up to what I understand either. Trump being played as a hero just doesn't fit my mind. By all senses he scares the shit out of me.
@William_Mary You just made a REALLY interesting point -Tesla, missing papers, uncle of don the con and the OSS you have a big WOW factor. Tesla was a brilliant inventor. Where we are now with trump it really does start to look like he is a plant. What trump was doing in Baku' and the money laundry in support of terrorist would have landed ANY other businessman in jail. But nooooooooooooooooooo, he just pulls out of the deal, making millions, when he gets put in the WH. Why was that venture never investigated? But I digress, given the strange, amazing and unexplained archaeological sites around the world one has to think there was way more going on at the Tigris and Euphrates then we think.
I'm wondering if Trump cannot take over all the Diebold voting machines to ensure he gets at least 2 out of every 3 votes.
rogerbenham
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Dec 15, 2019
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There's no longer a need to take them over to that degree. He won without the popular vote in 2016. 3 million out if I remember right. With both parties purging voters it's fairly easy to fudge the numbers now. All they need to do now is get the polling companies to manufacture their methods to match the voting numbers within a 5 to 6 percent margin.
Few will question the outcome and few will hold either party accountable. Each party has significant reason and evidence to challenge and accuse the other for voter fraud and tampering but, crickets.
And when it comes to the American people, most are ignorant to it or only complain when their chosen one loses. In the case of the 2016 Sanders scam, the courts ruled that the DNC has the right to chose their candidate as a private entity. They aren't held to abide by their own rules. Essentially that means the republican party can do the same thing.
So if the general election was to be caught cheating the voters guess what the courts are going to say? Ask Florida how that goes? The US Supreme Court illegally handed Bush a win before all ballots were counted. Later finding out the state started destroying ballots to cover up the growing lose to Gore.
As I repeat often here, the only way we will change and exterminate the corruption in DC is to mass exodus the 2 party establishment and unify behind the green party or sep. But the tribalism engaged on the public by MSM is overwhelming to defeat.
@William_Mary You have my sympathy. We too have a choice between two right wing parties and a slightly left wing party that moves further to the right whenever it gets close to attaining power. Presently we have no equivalent of Bernie Sanders. Years ago Britain had Tony Benn but he was far to clever to be allowed to run a party. The Elites do not want clever people.
@rogerbenham well look at what just happened to Corbyn. He went through a manufactured smear campaign from the media, intelligence apparatuses, other parties, and even from within his own party. Now he's out! But just like Sanders he can only blame himself. He didn't muster up a legitimate fight with substance and allowed the establishment to walk all over him. You can only view this as I do with Sanders, a simple matter of compliance to the very people who are in control. I have no doubt he' will be greatly rewarded by some means.
@William_Mary It is going to be incredibly hard to end the capitalist mindset and the age old America dream of rags to riches which allows the elite to do what they like because that's what all those lottery ticket buyers want.
Your solution is Chris Hedges solution. Ours may be too.
@rogerbenham if we could just get more people to tun in to Hedges!
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