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I always thought this too, even as a kid. WTF would be so good about it?
Killtheskyfairy comments on Apr 2, 2021:
I was more confused by Maundy Thursday. What the hell is Maundy???
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
aaand i still dont know what "maundy" is lol
Killtheskyfairy comments on Apr 2, 2021:
I was more confused by Maundy Thursday. What the hell is Maundy???
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
aaand i still dont know what "maundy" is lol
And waiting.. and waiting..
Castlepaloma comments on Apr 1, 2021:
What about all the ones who claimed to have witnessed him. Although some say that about Elvis.
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
*if someone tells you "here he is, over here," don't even bother going to look*
paraphrased https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-26.htm
fwiw there is a clear v to refute pretty much every single xtian belief
Castlepaloma comments on Apr 1, 2021:
What about all the ones who claimed to have witnessed him. Although some say that about Elvis.
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
*if someone tells you "here he is, over here," don't even bother going to look*
paraphrased https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-26.htm
fwiw there is a clear v to refute pretty much every single xtian belief
And waiting.. and waiting..
phxbillcee comments on Apr 1, 2021:
I'm pretty sure he's a no-show.
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
imo hedge your bets there k
phxbillcee comments on Apr 1, 2021:
I'm pretty sure he's a no-show.
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
imo hedge your bets there k
Sorry to get a bit serious but a few folks really need to see this.
OldGoat43 comments on Apr 2, 2021:
Isn't it strange though, that most politicians become millionaires quickly
after joining the ranks?
Corruption follows money and power.
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
yeh, support any at your peril imo
OldGoat43 comments on Apr 2, 2021:
Isn't it strange though, that most politicians become millionaires quickly
after joining the ranks?
Corruption follows money and power.
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
yeh, support any at your peril imo
Anyone up for blood sacrifice?
Theresa_N comments on Apr 2, 2021:
Yes, it's odd how long that takes sometimes.
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
@phxbillcee nice to see someone getting it :)
*No son of man may die for another's sins...*
plain english and everything eh
Theresa_N comments on Apr 2, 2021:
Yes, it's odd how long that takes sometimes.
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
@phxbillcee nice to see someone getting it :)
*No son of man may die for another's sins...*
plain english and everything eh
Couldn't agree with this more.
BestWithoutGods comments on Apr 1, 2021:
We need to repeal the Second Amendment and allow guns to be had only by the police and the military. :)
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
that's Declaration of Independence liz
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
so try again maybe
and hey since i prolly won't be replying, i wish you the best of luck ok
BestWithoutGods comments on Apr 1, 2021:
We need to repeal the Second Amendment and allow guns to be had only by the police and the military. :)
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
that's Declaration of Independence liz
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
so try again maybe
and hey since i prolly won't be replying, i wish you the best of luck ok
Couldn't agree with this more.
BestWithoutGods comments on Apr 1, 2021:
We need to repeal the Second Amendment and allow guns to be had only by the police and the military. :)
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
@Lizard_of_Ahaz "You can find that on this site which is JSTOR and studies constitutional law among other legal subjects..."
1903? And by Lt Col Umpty-ump?
ok then, ty
i'm not finding the broadly agreed upon alt interpretation though, gee, why is that do you think?
lol
we start talking food you gonna quote Monsanto bro? :)
having one on you there a bit i guess, i also get the interest in gun control and dont believe the debate should be stifled, but gun control just seems worse than none where it is practiced?
i mean you've seen the meme with the dictators on one side etc eh
even the counties that have the strictest controls are the worst i guess?
tbh imo fractured community is responsible for most gun violence, and all the laws in the world wont help, but i dont know
BestWithoutGods comments on Apr 1, 2021:
We need to repeal the Second Amendment and allow guns to be had only by the police and the military. :)
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 2, 2021:
@Lizard_of_Ahaz "You can find that on this site which is JSTOR and studies constitutional law among other legal subjects..."
1903? And by Lt Col Umpty-ump?
ok then, ty
i'm not finding the broadly agreed upon alt interpretation though, gee, why is that do you think?
lol
we start talking food you gonna quote Monsanto bro? :)
having one on you there a bit i guess, i also get the interest in gun control and dont believe the debate should be stifled, but gun control just seems worse than none where it is practiced?
i mean you've seen the meme with the dictators on one side etc eh
even the counties that have the strictest controls are the worst i guess?
tbh imo fractured community is responsible for most gun violence, and all the laws in the world wont help, but i dont know
Couldn't agree with this more.
BestWithoutGods comments on Apr 1, 2021:
We need to repeal the Second Amendment and allow guns to be had only by the police and the military. :)
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
i guess we've all seen the images of those who took guns away from their respective populations v those who didnt? Shouldn't be too hard to figure out eh? And let gnostics be gnostics, i reckon :)
"Does the Constitution allow citizens to overthrow the government?
--That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR ABOLISH IT and to institute new government, laying its foundation on ..."
i mean pls already
how else you gonna accomplish that, ask nice?
and i'm not even a gun guy, own no guns, etc
BestWithoutGods comments on Apr 1, 2021:
We need to repeal the Second Amendment and allow guns to be had only by the police and the military. :)
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
i guess we've all seen the images of those who took guns away from their respective populations v those who didnt? Shouldn't be too hard to figure out eh? And let gnostics be gnostics, i reckon :)
"Does the Constitution allow citizens to overthrow the government?
--That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR ABOLISH IT and to institute new government, laying its foundation on ..."
i mean pls already
how else you gonna accomplish that, ask nice?
and i'm not even a gun guy, own no guns, etc
Adam and Steve
bbyrd009 comments on Apr 1, 2021:
ok i wouldnt be reading "rib" (in english) so literally, fwiw
the orig root had other meanings iow
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@altschmerz ha! i'd be more likely to shoot them your meme tbh :D
bbyrd009 comments on Apr 1, 2021:
ok i wouldnt be reading "rib" (in english) so literally, fwiw
the orig root had other meanings iow
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@altschmerz ha! i'd be more likely to shoot them your meme tbh :D
Adam and Steve
bbyrd009 comments on Apr 1, 2021:
ok i wouldnt be reading "rib" (in english) so literally, fwiw
the orig root had other meanings iow
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@altschmerz well, the orig root meant more like "curve" (as in dna, perhaps) or "side" i think, lemme go look...
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/6763.htm
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/6760.htm
but the Adam and Eve story is not meant to be read as a literal historical account anyway, i mean there were no eye-witnesses eh
bbyrd009 comments on Apr 1, 2021:
ok i wouldnt be reading "rib" (in english) so literally, fwiw
the orig root had other meanings iow
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@altschmerz well, the orig root meant more like "curve" (as in dna, perhaps) or "side" i think, lemme go look...
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/6763.htm
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/6760.htm
but the Adam and Eve story is not meant to be read as a literal historical account anyway, i mean there were no eye-witnesses eh
Couldn't agree with this more.
BestWithoutGods comments on Apr 1, 2021:
We need to repeal the Second Amendment and allow guns to be had only by the police and the military. :)
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@BestWithoutGods "The stated purpose for the amendment is that at that time we did not have standing armies. Therefore, the citizens had to be armed and ready to join together to protect the United States."
swing/miss i guess, sorry
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
BestWithoutGods comments on Apr 1, 2021:
We need to repeal the Second Amendment and allow guns to be had only by the police and the military. :)
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@BestWithoutGods "The stated purpose for the amendment is that at that time we did not have standing armies. Therefore, the citizens had to be armed and ready to join together to protect the United States."
swing/miss i guess, sorry
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "On tne contrary, I see Epicurus as approaching the concept of a monotheistic God exactly as he found him."
well, without the concept of God Himself *creating* evil then, so not ezackly
which is after all OT, avail to Epi iow
"Please explain how ritual is a "decent first approach" and to what appraoch are you referring?"
"ritual" is included in your def of religion up there, and *dictionaries* might provide a decent first approach at a definition, was my meaning there
"The point was for clarification and contrast."
ok, and i would recommend *comparing,* at least as a mental exercise; yes, *ideally,* your defs are fine imo, but in practice it just often does not correlate to irl
"What is the "(speaking in tongues)" comment supposed to mean?"
i suspect your explanation there covers the Scriptural "speaking in tongues" also; we all have slightly diff defs, and as a rule we all "insist" upon our own
"Your continued use of your alternate meanings of religion and science in order to equate the two is insistence they have your altered meanings."
ah. could you pls restate my "alternate meanings" if you would? ty
"I don't need to because you already stated Roamer's hypothysis was vindicated years later. Science corrected itself based on continued observation and experimentation."
ha well somehow i doubt that m roemer found that as satisfying as you currently do lol, and i hope you understand that i dont mean to disagree with you necessarily, but to point out that your pov should maybe not be taken as quite so...axiomatic?
"Science corrected itself eventually" does not preclude "science was whacked as fuck, at the time" imo
i mean, by your own admission, any "fact" you hold as gospel today might take 50 years to see any light, right?
snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "On tne contrary, I see Epicurus as approaching the concept of a monotheistic God exactly as he found him."
well, without the concept of God Himself *creating* evil then, so not ezackly
which is after all OT, avail to Epi iow
"Please explain how ritual is a "decent first approach" and to what appraoch are you referring?"
"ritual" is included in your def of religion up there, and *dictionaries* might provide a decent first approach at a definition, was my meaning there
"The point was for clarification and contrast."
ok, and i would recommend *comparing,* at least as a mental exercise; yes, *ideally,* your defs are fine imo, but in practice it just often does not correlate to irl
"What is the "(speaking in tongues)" comment supposed to mean?"
i suspect your explanation there covers the Scriptural "speaking in tongues" also; we all have slightly diff defs, and as a rule we all "insist" upon our own
"Your continued use of your alternate meanings of religion and science in order to equate the two is insistence they have your altered meanings."
ah. could you pls restate my "alternate meanings" if you would? ty
"I don't need to because you already stated Roamer's hypothysis was vindicated years later. Science corrected itself based on continued observation and experimentation."
ha well somehow i doubt that m roemer found that as satisfying as you currently do lol, and i hope you understand that i dont mean to disagree with you necessarily, but to point out that your pov should maybe not be taken as quite so...axiomatic?
"Science corrected itself eventually" does not preclude "science was whacked as fuck, at the time" imo
i mean, by your own admission, any "fact" you hold as gospel today might take 50 years to see any light, right?
Ugh, I'd rather listen to country music.
phxbillcee comments on Mar 31, 2021:
What did you expect, Hank? Osteen is a POS!
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@phxbillcee yeh, maybe he's that guy now? dunno
phxbillcee comments on Mar 31, 2021:
What did you expect, Hank? Osteen is a POS!
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@phxbillcee yeh, maybe he's that guy now? dunno
Ugh, I'd rather listen to country music.
phxbillcee comments on Mar 31, 2021:
What did you expect, Hank? Osteen is a POS!
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
um, yikes?
i passing like him, mostly bc most religious ppl hate him
but did you know that he did not want his job there, leading that "ministry?"although he might love it now, dunno
but i struggle to imagine why an atheist would dislike him, i mean he's pretty generally an uplifting type of guy? Hardly a fire/brimstone type?
phxbillcee comments on Mar 31, 2021:
What did you expect, Hank? Osteen is a POS!
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
um, yikes?
i passing like him, mostly bc most religious ppl hate him
but did you know that he did not want his job there, leading that "ministry?"although he might love it now, dunno
but i struggle to imagine why an atheist would dislike him, i mean he's pretty generally an uplifting type of guy? Hardly a fire/brimstone type?
Couldn't agree with this more.
BestWithoutGods comments on Apr 1, 2021:
We need to repeal the Second Amendment and allow guns to be had only by the police and the military. :)
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
wadr we already tried that one, and it was a resounding fail
BestWithoutGods comments on Apr 1, 2021:
We need to repeal the Second Amendment and allow guns to be had only by the police and the military. :)
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
wadr we already tried that one, and it was a resounding fail
Couldn't agree with this more.
Tejas comments on Apr 1, 2021:
Finland is considered the happiest country on the planet and they rank 10th in guns per capita.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
ty, i mean canada is swimming in guns?
Tejas comments on Apr 1, 2021:
Finland is considered the happiest country on the planet and they rank 10th in guns per capita.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
ty, i mean canada is swimming in guns?
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snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "What is true about science is that it is self correcting when evidence can be presented to settle a point."
tell that to mr roemer lol, see what he thinks :)
snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "What is true about science is that it is self correcting when evidence can be presented to settle a point."
tell that to mr roemer lol, see what he thinks :)
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snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB ok then, my apologies, i am usually accused of being too brief
you might note that i at least actually addressed your posts
("insistence? where did i insist, again?"
"i told someone that they "must accept" some definition? could you point out where?")
have a good one
snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB ok then, my apologies, i am usually accused of being too brief
you might note that i at least actually addressed your posts
("insistence? where did i insist, again?"
"i told someone that they "must accept" some definition? could you point out where?")
have a good one
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Mooolah comments on Mar 28, 2021:
The solution to trans sports is to have a trans sports league.
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@Mooolah or even just choice, huh?
well put imo
Mooolah comments on Mar 28, 2021:
The solution to trans sports is to have a trans sports league.
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@Mooolah or even just choice, huh?
well put imo
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snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "OK, so you don't trust the dictionary definition of words and choose to use them as you understand them rather than their commonly defined understanding."
oh, i dunno, i see "ritual" etc in the def of "religion," and have allowed that they are still a decent first approach. But i would say that the def of "science" is an ideal one, imo
"Fine, but your ability to communicate with others will necessarily be compromised since you are speaking terms that your listener will understand differently. This difference in understanding terms and words is an issue in communication anyway," (speaking in tongues) "but your insistence to say your understanding is paramount and disgard the dictionary and its attempts for a common understanding of words only exacerbates the issue."
insistence? where did i insist, again?
"I find it an odd conundrum that you claim to be "free of gnosticism now" while telling others they must accept your alternate meaning of words, telling them how mistaken they are about asserting facts or opinions as if you know what you are talking about."
i told someone that they "must accept" some definition? could you point out where? and my apologies, didnt mean that at all! i thought i made clear that i have no idea what i am talking about lol, back at "5%?"
anyway gotta run, have a nice day
snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "OK, so you don't trust the dictionary definition of words and choose to use them as you understand them rather than their commonly defined understanding."
oh, i dunno, i see "ritual" etc in the def of "religion," and have allowed that they are still a decent first approach. But i would say that the def of "science" is an ideal one, imo
"Fine, but your ability to communicate with others will necessarily be compromised since you are speaking terms that your listener will understand differently. This difference in understanding terms and words is an issue in communication anyway," (speaking in tongues) "but your insistence to say your understanding is paramount and disgard the dictionary and its attempts for a common understanding of words only exacerbates the issue."
insistence? where did i insist, again?
"I find it an odd conundrum that you claim to be "free of gnosticism now" while telling others they must accept your alternate meaning of words, telling them how mistaken they are about asserting facts or opinions as if you know what you are talking about."
i told someone that they "must accept" some definition? could you point out where? and my apologies, didnt mean that at all! i thought i made clear that i have no idea what i am talking about lol, back at "5%?"
anyway gotta run, have a nice day
This came up, thanks syntiger6.
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 24, 2021:
lemme find the Cassini story, i'll get back to you, but the point is that science has *plenty* of room for ego, hate, lack of respect for truth, can be manipulated to say anything, etc
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@Fernapple "But science does not glorify them, set them up as ideals and try to promote them in the world beyond, indeed science by its nature is not..."
"atomic bombs"
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 24, 2021:
lemme find the Cassini story, i'll get back to you, but the point is that science has *plenty* of room for ego, hate, lack of respect for truth, can be manipulated to say anything, etc
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@Fernapple "But science does not glorify them, set them up as ideals and try to promote them in the world beyond, indeed science by its nature is not..."
"atomic bombs"
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snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "From the on-line dictionary..."
not saying that dictionaries are completely worthless, but i suspect that when one gets popular the owner (Webster et al) gets made an offer they cannot refuse, as your reference of one kind of points out, dictionaries are power. Definitions change, get diluted, obfuscated, comandeered, etc. which is i guess why many still seek the "webster's 1828 dictionary" etc, but here i'd mostly like to point out your quoting of these "definitions" to me; do you think i was ignorant of them? And sure, theyre close enough i guess, for a one-dimensional first approximation, but let me suggest that there is at least quite a bit more crossover than the definitions suggest ok?
after all, what was the point of quoting the definitions? to school me on the "correct" usage, right :)
Ppl, "scientists" even, suffer from dunning-kruger the same as the rest of us, and "science" all too easily becomes the whore of the highest bidder, at least in practice.
I suspect that most often when someone invokes the term "science" in defense of a position that they are most likely deceived and in denial, like any other gnostic
There are agnostic scientists too--"agnostic" in the orig sense, not having anything to do with ones belief or lack of in any "God" iow--but they don't talk like epicurus, in statements of "fact." Or they make qualified statements, or i guess prolly most often speak in questions
"In 1676 an anomaly in the orbit of Io, Jupiter's innermost moon, led the astronomer Ole Roemer to make a very specific prediction. Io would appear from behind Jupiter at 5:37 pm on November 9, 1676, he said--and that would prove light travels with a finite speed. Roemer's mentor, Jean-Dominique Cassini, head of the Paris Observatory, rubbished the idea; light spread instantaneously, he said. His beliefs () led him to a different prediction. According to Cassini, it would be 5:27 when Io appeared.
Io appeared at 5:37 and 49 seconds. On hearing of this, Cassini announced that the facts fit with the story he had presented (faith). Although Cassini had made his (erroneous) prediction at a public gathering of scientists, not one of them demurred when he denied it; they all backed him up. Roemer had to wait fifty years to be vindicated; only after Cassini had died did scientists accept that the speed of light was finite."
[books.google.com]
see, scientists, you, have "beliefs" too, and although this is an extreme example, it illustrates how "science" is, after all, a tool of people, who are as full of shit as anyone
snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "From the on-line dictionary..."
not saying that dictionaries are completely worthless, but i suspect that when one gets popular the owner (Webster et al) gets made an offer they cannot refuse, as your reference of one kind of points out, dictionaries are power. Definitions change, get diluted, obfuscated, comandeered, etc. which is i guess why many still seek the "webster's 1828 dictionary" etc, but here i'd mostly like to point out your quoting of these "definitions" to me; do you think i was ignorant of them? And sure, theyre close enough i guess, for a one-dimensional first approximation, but let me suggest that there is at least quite a bit more crossover than the definitions suggest ok?
after all, what was the point of quoting the definitions? to school me on the "correct" usage, right :)
Ppl, "scientists" even, suffer from dunning-kruger the same as the rest of us, and "science" all too easily becomes the whore of the highest bidder, at least in practice.
I suspect that most often when someone invokes the term "science" in defense of a position that they are most likely deceived and in denial, like any other gnostic
There are agnostic scientists too--"agnostic" in the orig sense, not having anything to do with ones belief or lack of in any "God" iow--but they don't talk like epicurus, in statements of "fact." Or they make qualified statements, or i guess prolly most often speak in questions
"In 1676 an anomaly in the orbit of Io, Jupiter's innermost moon, led the astronomer Ole Roemer to make a very specific prediction. Io would appear from behind Jupiter at 5:37 pm on November 9, 1676, he said--and that would prove light travels with a finite speed. Roemer's mentor, Jean-Dominique Cassini, head of the Paris Observatory, rubbished the idea; light spread instantaneously, he said. His beliefs () led him to a different prediction. According to Cassini, it would be 5:27 when Io appeared.
Io appeared at 5:37 and 49 seconds. On hearing of this, Cassini announced that the facts fit with the story he had presented (faith). Although Cassini had made his (erroneous) prediction at a public gathering of scientists, not one of them demurred when he denied it; they all backed him up. Roemer had to wait fifty years to be vindicated; only after Cassini had died did scientists accept that the speed of light was finite."
[books.google.com]
see, scientists, you, have "beliefs" too, and although this is an extreme example, it illustrates how "science" is, after all, a tool of people, who are as full of shit as anyone
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snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "The definitions Epicuris writes are rather straight forward regardless of your attempts to obfuscate them."
i didnt mean to obfuscate there so much as to point out that epicurus apparently had no desire to deal with "God" as he found Him, that being One Who admits to "creating evil," which v was extant in his time
"If as you say-" i did not say that tho; the Bible does. i was quoting
"-God creates evil - and I agree that God would necessarily need to if one is monotheistic - then God is malevolent."
well, you and epicurus are certainly free to define "God" as you see fit, but i suggest that *you* will be defined in the process. I am more or less free of gnosticism now, only flares up now and then, and i have no desire to denigrate epicurus if he is a hero to you, but he was a hedonist after all, and "Yah creates evil" is prolly not really...being heard as it was meant.
Several epicurean mantras in the NT tho i guess, hmm--despite the fact that he was surely a bloated fucker of young boys--which i find the more remarkable myself
Personally i cant help but be minded of a teenager complaining about their "evil" parents, but i guess that is prolly just a projection, and about God i really know nothing...or i'd say i maybe know about 5%, roughly the same amount of the universe that we are able to point to as "known"
"Plenty of legitimate and accomplished scientists also subscribe to a religious belief whether they be Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, or something else. Science is not a religion and in the estimation of a number of scientists (as well as other people) is compatible with all sorts of religions."
ah, i kinda forgot, we are using the term "religion" differently i guess; and we are not really having a conversation on this point, at least not yet. btw did you know that our "scientists" used to be called "priests?" they were the guys who knew the "secret" of how to make bronze. Anyway i take religion to mean "done by rote, ritual," but i guess a scientist might also have "religious" beliefs too, sure. But thats not what i (and others before me, here even) likely mean by "science can be a religion"
kind of more like "science can and often is used as a cover for ones subjective determination," being as how we, humans, tend to seek "facts" that fit with our narrative, and discount facts that dont. And i am not immune to this, which is why you are likely to find me arguing against a point i might happen to believe, fwiw.
snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "The definitions Epicuris writes are rather straight forward regardless of your attempts to obfuscate them."
i didnt mean to obfuscate there so much as to point out that epicurus apparently had no desire to deal with "God" as he found Him, that being One Who admits to "creating evil," which v was extant in his time
"If as you say-" i did not say that tho; the Bible does. i was quoting
"-God creates evil - and I agree that God would necessarily need to if one is monotheistic - then God is malevolent."
well, you and epicurus are certainly free to define "God" as you see fit, but i suggest that *you* will be defined in the process. I am more or less free of gnosticism now, only flares up now and then, and i have no desire to denigrate epicurus if he is a hero to you, but he was a hedonist after all, and "Yah creates evil" is prolly not really...being heard as it was meant.
Several epicurean mantras in the NT tho i guess, hmm--despite the fact that he was surely a bloated fucker of young boys--which i find the more remarkable myself
Personally i cant help but be minded of a teenager complaining about their "evil" parents, but i guess that is prolly just a projection, and about God i really know nothing...or i'd say i maybe know about 5%, roughly the same amount of the universe that we are able to point to as "known"
"Plenty of legitimate and accomplished scientists also subscribe to a religious belief whether they be Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, or something else. Science is not a religion and in the estimation of a number of scientists (as well as other people) is compatible with all sorts of religions."
ah, i kinda forgot, we are using the term "religion" differently i guess; and we are not really having a conversation on this point, at least not yet. btw did you know that our "scientists" used to be called "priests?" they were the guys who knew the "secret" of how to make bronze. Anyway i take religion to mean "done by rote, ritual," but i guess a scientist might also have "religious" beliefs too, sure. But thats not what i (and others before me, here even) likely mean by "science can be a religion"
kind of more like "science can and often is used as a cover for ones subjective determination," being as how we, humans, tend to seek "facts" that fit with our narrative, and discount facts that dont. And i am not immune to this, which is why you are likely to find me arguing against a point i might happen to believe, fwiw.
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snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?" no; at least according to the Bible, Yah *creates* evil, sorry
" Then he is not omnipotent."
ok well i am not a gnostic, so i'll leave you to adjust for the apparent truth up there
"Is he able, but not willing?"
nope
" Then he is malevolent."
same reply
"Is he both able and willing?"
also no, apparently
"Then whence cometh evil?"
near as i can tell, by ones subjective determination of it, aka *eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge*
"Is he neither able nor willing?"
again, apparently not
"Then why call him God."
"God" is actually a quite generic name/title i guess, i would never use such a term for Yah myself
*you* are Elohim, according to the Bible
Epicurus, 341 BCE - 240 BCE
"Science is not religion no matter how you choose to regard it."
i could provide many, many examples of scientists whose religion is science, as could Ole Roemer (Cassini) and many, many others, with all due respect.
Science *can* easily become one's religion--no matter how you choose to regard it--and imo you even know all the mantras, "just the basic facts," "i'll decide based upon the evidence," and other auto-jerkoff type statements, no offense meant. But they're almost pure crap, and scientists are/can be among some of the most emo panty-waist bunch of money-grubbing egotists on the planet, at least in my experience, which is i guess why they usually get the guillotine second :)
i hear "scientist" with the same ear i hear "i'm saved" with, most times, and i don't recall ever being sorry yet. Anyone who claims to be a "scientist" is--just like believers--trying to score some cheap points imo, at least broadly speaking.
Epicurus did say some decent stuff imo--even got a nod from Paul in the NT i guess?--but wadr i'm afraid he is as guilty as everyone else of expecting Yah to conform to his desires
now i dont mean to say i dont appreciate your idealistic viewpoint viz "science," i'm an idealist myself, but unfort it seems for every Tesla we get like a million Edisons. Ppl being discredited/ruined for life and impoverished, if not outright murdered, are the hallmarks of "science"
snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Apr 1, 2021:
@RussRAB "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?" no; at least according to the Bible, Yah *creates* evil, sorry
" Then he is not omnipotent."
ok well i am not a gnostic, so i'll leave you to adjust for the apparent truth up there
"Is he able, but not willing?"
nope
" Then he is malevolent."
same reply
"Is he both able and willing?"
also no, apparently
"Then whence cometh evil?"
near as i can tell, by ones subjective determination of it, aka *eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge*
"Is he neither able nor willing?"
again, apparently not
"Then why call him God."
"God" is actually a quite generic name/title i guess, i would never use such a term for Yah myself
*you* are Elohim, according to the Bible
Epicurus, 341 BCE - 240 BCE
"Science is not religion no matter how you choose to regard it."
i could provide many, many examples of scientists whose religion is science, as could Ole Roemer (Cassini) and many, many others, with all due respect.
Science *can* easily become one's religion--no matter how you choose to regard it--and imo you even know all the mantras, "just the basic facts," "i'll decide based upon the evidence," and other auto-jerkoff type statements, no offense meant. But they're almost pure crap, and scientists are/can be among some of the most emo panty-waist bunch of money-grubbing egotists on the planet, at least in my experience, which is i guess why they usually get the guillotine second :)
i hear "scientist" with the same ear i hear "i'm saved" with, most times, and i don't recall ever being sorry yet. Anyone who claims to be a "scientist" is--just like believers--trying to score some cheap points imo, at least broadly speaking.
Epicurus did say some decent stuff imo--even got a nod from Paul in the NT i guess?--but wadr i'm afraid he is as guilty as everyone else of expecting Yah to conform to his desires
now i dont mean to say i dont appreciate your idealistic viewpoint viz "science," i'm an idealist myself, but unfort it seems for every Tesla we get like a million Edisons. Ppl being discredited/ruined for life and impoverished, if not outright murdered, are the hallmarks of "science"
Appeals Court: Prof.
racocn8 comments on Mar 31, 2021:
Extract: "In this more recent opinion, Circuit Judge Amul Thapar leaned heavily on the idea of intellectual freedom as a justification for disrespecting Doe’s identity:
Traditionally, American universities have been beacons of intellectual diversity and academic freedom. They have prided ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 31, 2021:
kinda surprised that the court seems to be going the opposite direction, myself
racocn8 comments on Mar 31, 2021:
Extract: "In this more recent opinion, Circuit Judge Amul Thapar leaned heavily on the idea of intellectual freedom as a justification for disrespecting Doe’s identity:
Traditionally, American universities have been beacons of intellectual diversity and academic freedom. They have prided ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 31, 2021:
kinda surprised that the court seems to be going the opposite direction, myself
A hypothetical moral dilemma:
Dan melody are dating, Dan ask Melody" are you on birth control?
DenoPenno comments on Mar 31, 2021:
They both lied here and it is common. Usually men just wanna get laid and women secretly want to have children. If this holds true the end result is most often children used as a weapon.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 31, 2021:
@Gwendolyn2018 hmm, you think? might depend upon the age group? seems pretty common to me though
DenoPenno comments on Mar 31, 2021:
They both lied here and it is common. Usually men just wanna get laid and women secretly want to have children. If this holds true the end result is most often children used as a weapon.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 31, 2021:
@Gwendolyn2018 hmm, you think? might depend upon the age group? seems pretty common to me though
A hypothetical moral dilemma:
Dan melody are dating, Dan ask Melody" are you on birth control?
Tejas comments on Mar 31, 2021:
His medical history is not her business. If she wants children its her responsibility to initiate and ask about having kids. Her just hoping she gets pregnant in the long run is a dick move.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 31, 2021:
esp after "no problem?" I'd be taking a vaca with her in the desert somewhere prolly :D
Tejas comments on Mar 31, 2021:
His medical history is not her business. If she wants children its her responsibility to initiate and ask about having kids. Her just hoping she gets pregnant in the long run is a dick move.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 31, 2021:
esp after "no problem?" I'd be taking a vaca with her in the desert somewhere prolly :D
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snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 31, 2021:
@RussRAB hey, so go with that then :)
but i would argue that allowing ppl to get in trouble via making poison or bombs does not necessarily preclude omniscience or omnipotence, obviously. "...and would have the power to prevent its being made" is strictly your idea, the human idea, seems to me anyway?
Since when is God required to conform to your standards, iow? Not that i disagree, understand, with your *feelings*
*test everything, and keep what is good* sounds like science to me! And if "religion" wants to stand in the way of that, then i guess it will *pass away* right? Although i suggest that that is a pretty simplistic perspective, and that i could point out stories about the very supposed upholders of our beloved scientific method that sought to impede progress too.
"Scientists" are really no less religious than anyone, most of the time
imo
snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 31, 2021:
@RussRAB hey, so go with that then :)
but i would argue that allowing ppl to get in trouble via making poison or bombs does not necessarily preclude omniscience or omnipotence, obviously. "...and would have the power to prevent its being made" is strictly your idea, the human idea, seems to me anyway?
Since when is God required to conform to your standards, iow? Not that i disagree, understand, with your *feelings*
*test everything, and keep what is good* sounds like science to me! And if "religion" wants to stand in the way of that, then i guess it will *pass away* right? Although i suggest that that is a pretty simplistic perspective, and that i could point out stories about the very supposed upholders of our beloved scientific method that sought to impede progress too.
"Scientists" are really no less religious than anyone, most of the time
imo
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Rossy92 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
I don't know where I stand on the transgendered and sports, but this guy's logic is obviously pig-ignorantly flawed. I'd like to see someone pose to him the question of birth defects, or the existence of hermaphroditism. And besides that, his "God" never wrote a damned thing. His "God" is merely ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 31, 2021:
@Rossy92 "gnosticism, no?" ok
i do not subscribe to any "fall" per se, but it might make a good analogy?
as to the op, i suspect that "trans" ppl have just chosen a diff way to deal with the same "human condition" that we all face, in a way that keeps the focus on themselves, as ppl are inclined to do, after all. More power to them, imo
Rossy92 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
I don't know where I stand on the transgendered and sports, but this guy's logic is obviously pig-ignorantly flawed. I'd like to see someone pose to him the question of birth defects, or the existence of hermaphroditism. And besides that, his "God" never wrote a damned thing. His "God" is merely ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 31, 2021:
@Rossy92 "gnosticism, no?" ok
i do not subscribe to any "fall" per se, but it might make a good analogy?
as to the op, i suspect that "trans" ppl have just chosen a diff way to deal with the same "human condition" that we all face, in a way that keeps the focus on themselves, as ppl are inclined to do, after all. More power to them, imo
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snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 30, 2021:
@RussRAB well, you can define God that way if you like, but what if He is not interested in complying? And wadr i'm not quite sure what religion has to do with that; sounds like science has been made into a religion tbh?
snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 30, 2021:
@RussRAB well, you can define God that way if you like, but what if He is not interested in complying? And wadr i'm not quite sure what religion has to do with that; sounds like science has been made into a religion tbh?
Tennessee lawmaker proposes making Holy Bible official state book — again | wbir.com
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 27, 2021:
yet the Bible is not holy, according to itself hmm
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 30, 2021:
@K9Kohle789 yeh i guess "sacred" is as close as one can get, but i wouldnt bother believers with the truth too much lol
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 27, 2021:
yet the Bible is not holy, according to itself hmm
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 30, 2021:
@K9Kohle789 yeh i guess "sacred" is as close as one can get, but i wouldnt bother believers with the truth too much lol
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Rossy92 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
I don't know where I stand on the transgendered and sports, but this guy's logic is obviously pig-ignorantly flawed. I'd like to see someone pose to him the question of birth defects, or the existence of hermaphroditism. And besides that, his "God" never wrote a damned thing. His "God" is merely ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 30, 2021:
@Rossy92 well you are the gnostic after all, eh
but no, sry
Rossy92 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
I don't know where I stand on the transgendered and sports, but this guy's logic is obviously pig-ignorantly flawed. I'd like to see someone pose to him the question of birth defects, or the existence of hermaphroditism. And besides that, his "God" never wrote a damned thing. His "God" is merely ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 30, 2021:
@Rossy92 well you are the gnostic after all, eh
but no, sry
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nicknotes comments on Mar 28, 2021:
What about all the babies born with defects??? Aren't these mistakes?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 29, 2021:
@nicknotes surely not in every case, but it seems hard to argue that something has disrupted the normal course even in the other ones; the "natural" analogue would be mutations, seems like
i mean blame a God (you) do not believe in if that makes it better, but i dunno
nicknotes comments on Mar 28, 2021:
What about all the babies born with defects??? Aren't these mistakes?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 29, 2021:
@nicknotes surely not in every case, but it seems hard to argue that something has disrupted the normal course even in the other ones; the "natural" analogue would be mutations, seems like
i mean blame a God (you) do not believe in if that makes it better, but i dunno
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BufftonBeotch comments on Mar 28, 2021:
So we should not fix heart conditions at birth?
The baby should just die blue and go cold in a weeping mother's arms when it is something that can be fixed?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 29, 2021:
@BufftonBeotch i would take control of my own health and let those who take that path worry about it, tbh. Most ppl barely know what an omega 3 is. The "doctor" literally has a snake on a pole on his lapel
BufftonBeotch comments on Mar 28, 2021:
So we should not fix heart conditions at birth?
The baby should just die blue and go cold in a weeping mother's arms when it is something that can be fixed?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 29, 2021:
@BufftonBeotch i would take control of my own health and let those who take that path worry about it, tbh. Most ppl barely know what an omega 3 is. The "doctor" literally has a snake on a pole on his lapel
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BufftonBeotch comments on Mar 28, 2021:
So we should not fix heart conditions at birth?
The baby should just die blue and go cold in a weeping mother's arms when it is something that can be fixed?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 29, 2021:
prolly depends, insured wasp or charity case?
BufftonBeotch comments on Mar 28, 2021:
So we should not fix heart conditions at birth?
The baby should just die blue and go cold in a weeping mother's arms when it is something that can be fixed?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 29, 2021:
prolly depends, insured wasp or charity case?
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Rossy92 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
I don't know where I stand on the transgendered and sports, but this guy's logic is obviously pig-ignorantly flawed. I'd like to see someone pose to him the question of birth defects, or the existence of hermaphroditism. And besides that, his "God" never wrote a damned thing. His "God" is merely ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 29, 2021:
@Rossy92 hmm well i don't think suggesting that we are responsible for most of our ills is *too* out of line...so you pick
Rossy92 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
I don't know where I stand on the transgendered and sports, but this guy's logic is obviously pig-ignorantly flawed. I'd like to see someone pose to him the question of birth defects, or the existence of hermaphroditism. And besides that, his "God" never wrote a damned thing. His "God" is merely ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 29, 2021:
@Rossy92 hmm well i don't think suggesting that we are responsible for most of our ills is *too* out of line...so you pick
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RussRAB comments on Mar 28, 2021:
But one of the nice things about living in the US is that an individual is not supposed to have to live by your God's edicts and directives. This West Virginia Lawmaker needs to revisit the 1st Amendment and then act accordingly.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
apparently w virginians disagree
RussRAB comments on Mar 28, 2021:
But one of the nice things about living in the US is that an individual is not supposed to have to live by your God's edicts and directives. This West Virginia Lawmaker needs to revisit the 1st Amendment and then act accordingly.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
apparently w virginians disagree
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Rossy92 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
I don't know where I stand on the transgendered and sports, but this guy's logic is obviously pig-ignorantly flawed. I'd like to see someone pose to him the question of birth defects, or the existence of hermaphroditism. And besides that, his "God" never wrote a damned thing. His "God" is merely ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
birth defects; "hey, your parents were irresponsible on their own, science made thalidomide, not Me!"
hermaphrodites; "thank science for atrazine, too"
Rossy92 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
I don't know where I stand on the transgendered and sports, but this guy's logic is obviously pig-ignorantly flawed. I'd like to see someone pose to him the question of birth defects, or the existence of hermaphroditism. And besides that, his "God" never wrote a damned thing. His "God" is merely ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
birth defects; "hey, your parents were irresponsible on their own, science made thalidomide, not Me!"
hermaphrodites; "thank science for atrazine, too"
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snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
@Mooolah science could be responsible for the mutations, a la atrazine frogs, etc?
snytiger6 comments on Mar 28, 2021:
Most people have either an XY or an XX chromosone combination. I have a friend who has an XXY chromosome combination. I have over my life met about have a dozen such persons, that I am aware of, I suspect I have met more. It is actually a pretty common phenomena. Also some people have an XYY ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
@Mooolah science could be responsible for the mutations, a la atrazine frogs, etc?
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nicknotes comments on Mar 28, 2021:
What about all the babies born with defects??? Aren't these mistakes?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
one could argue that they are mostly caused by mistakes their parents made i guess
nicknotes comments on Mar 28, 2021:
What about all the babies born with defects??? Aren't these mistakes?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
one could argue that they are mostly caused by mistakes their parents made i guess
Physicists Think They’ve Spotted the Ghosts of Black Holes from Another Universe
WilliamCharles comments on Mar 27, 2021:
Article on the understanding of expansion.
https://www.resonancescience.org/blog/3D-map-of-the-Milky-Way-questions-our-understanding-of-expansion?fbclid=IwAR1DTUeYWJJsPA8kYQ6d3hMPM5q15dGfu29MRfS8kM0wwIhhdEie4O6B7yE
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
ha or lack of it anyway eh
WilliamCharles comments on Mar 27, 2021:
Article on the understanding of expansion.
https://www.resonancescience.org/blog/3D-map-of-the-Milky-Way-questions-our-understanding-of-expansion?fbclid=IwAR1DTUeYWJJsPA8kYQ6d3hMPM5q15dGfu29MRfS8kM0wwIhhdEie4O6B7yE
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
ha or lack of it anyway eh
Physicists Think They’ve Spotted the Ghosts of Black Holes from Another Universe
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 24, 2021:
"yes, *indeed*," so one prob might be that he is a gnostic
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
@WilliamCharles well, "Asked whether the black holes from our universe might someday leave traces in the universe of the next eon, Penrose responded, "Yes, indeed!" is qualified by a "might," but "indeed" would tend to indicate that the guy is convinced it will happen
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 24, 2021:
"yes, *indeed*," so one prob might be that he is a gnostic
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 28, 2021:
@WilliamCharles well, "Asked whether the black holes from our universe might someday leave traces in the universe of the next eon, Penrose responded, "Yes, indeed!" is qualified by a "might," but "indeed" would tend to indicate that the guy is convinced it will happen
If anyone is having a bad day...
St-Sinner comments on Mar 27, 2021:
He told in a radio interview that he did not regret even a bit. He said... He made a decision based on his best judgement at the time. The decision was right.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
except it obv wasn't eh
St-Sinner comments on Mar 27, 2021:
He told in a radio interview that he did not regret even a bit. He said... He made a decision based on his best judgement at the time. The decision was right.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
except it obv wasn't eh
If anyone is having a bad day...
Cast1es comments on Mar 27, 2021:
OVER FIFTY EIGHT BILLION . Better check your math .
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
yeh, apple = $2 trillion now, so $200 billion today
yikes
Cast1es comments on Mar 27, 2021:
OVER FIFTY EIGHT BILLION . Better check your math .
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
yeh, apple = $2 trillion now, so $200 billion today
yikes
What a catchy tune! Lol
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 27, 2021:
i have no idea what this is about, yet i find myself in total agreement! :D
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@MichelleGar1 just heard it, its a hoot
i now know way more about some chinese kid dying a year ago than i ever intended lol
guess it was a huge deal
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 27, 2021:
i have no idea what this is about, yet i find myself in total agreement! :D
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@MichelleGar1 just heard it, its a hoot
i now know way more about some chinese kid dying a year ago than i ever intended lol
guess it was a huge deal
What a catchy tune! Lol
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 27, 2021:
i have no idea what this is about, yet i find myself in total agreement! :D
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@MichelleGar1 ah ty
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 27, 2021:
i have no idea what this is about, yet i find myself in total agreement! :D
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@MichelleGar1 ah ty
A Belgian Court Fined the Jehovah’s Witnesses for Shunning Former Members | Hemant Mehta | ...
DenoPenno comments on Mar 22, 2021:
JW's often disassociate with former members for life. It has little to do with hate and is in their scriptures. Other religious groups follow a similar way of doing this. The worst group for doing this is Scientology because they do bring harassment into the picture. The JW's do not.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
it has little to do with hate? you think? seems hateful to me
DenoPenno comments on Mar 22, 2021:
JW's often disassociate with former members for life. It has little to do with hate and is in their scriptures. Other religious groups follow a similar way of doing this. The worst group for doing this is Scientology because they do bring harassment into the picture. The JW's do not.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
it has little to do with hate? you think? seems hateful to me
What a catchy tune! Lol
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 27, 2021:
i have no idea what this is about, yet i find myself in total agreement! :D
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@MichelleGar1 ha! no... https://youtu.be/cBIapodEb9A
still not sure if TwoNMiaC is the group, or what
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 27, 2021:
i have no idea what this is about, yet i find myself in total agreement! :D
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@MichelleGar1 ha! no... https://youtu.be/cBIapodEb9A
still not sure if TwoNMiaC is the group, or what
Caught in a lie lol
phxbillcee comments on Mar 27, 2021:
You can count the 'rings' (wrinkles) on me, & don't have to cut me down to do it!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
12oz mouse :)
phxbillcee comments on Mar 27, 2021:
You can count the 'rings' (wrinkles) on me, & don't have to cut me down to do it!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
12oz mouse :)
Waits for the snowflakes
Theresa_N comments on Mar 27, 2021:
What is a "biological male?" Even genetic "males" can be born with a vagina.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
so then a male born without one, i guess
Theresa_N comments on Mar 27, 2021:
What is a "biological male?" Even genetic "males" can be born with a vagina.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
so then a male born without one, i guess
One of the more difficult aspects of being an atheist, at least from an outsider’s perspective, is...
KKGator comments on Mar 24, 2021:
No one here gets out alive.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@KKGator ok then, you too
you might find "eastern dialectic" if you are inclined
(and note how unsatisfying it also is to you :) )
KKGator comments on Mar 24, 2021:
No one here gets out alive.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@KKGator ok then, you too
you might find "eastern dialectic" if you are inclined
(and note how unsatisfying it also is to you :) )
Tennessee lawmaker proposes making Holy Bible official state book — again | wbir.com
redhog comments on Mar 27, 2021:
First of all. Do not go lumping all of us rednecks into the same damned group with idiots like that.
Second, this is why Tennessee and Kentfucky combine to form the armpit of the US.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@redhog my apologies, cheap shot
mississippi then? :D
and nevermind how them kentuck/tenneseeians feel anyway right
narf
redhog comments on Mar 27, 2021:
First of all. Do not go lumping all of us rednecks into the same damned group with idiots like that.
Second, this is why Tennessee and Kentfucky combine to form the armpit of the US.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@redhog my apologies, cheap shot
mississippi then? :D
and nevermind how them kentuck/tenneseeians feel anyway right
narf
One of the more difficult aspects of being an atheist, at least from an outsider’s perspective, is...
KKGator comments on Mar 24, 2021:
No one here gets out alive.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@KKGator or you might even proceed from "Neither of us were talking about the known or unknown universe." are you sure? Not that im even necessarily disagreeing with you ok, but meaning to point out that your declaration, as put, assumes certainty/knowledge based upon--in this case--your possibly erroneous or incompete definition of "known or unknown universe," which frank is obv a part of eh?
and again i dont mean to imply that you are "wrong" necessarily, but that you have *eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge* which is after all what most ppl, westerners particularly, tend to do. We reason according to what is now known as the Hegelian dialectic, which implies a winner and a loser, etc, and most of us simply cannot fathom any other way to reason, having been steeped in it from birth; it requires that one become gnostic, too, and saying "i don't know" becomes an admission of ignorance, or less-than?
KKGator comments on Mar 24, 2021:
No one here gets out alive.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@KKGator or you might even proceed from "Neither of us were talking about the known or unknown universe." are you sure? Not that im even necessarily disagreeing with you ok, but meaning to point out that your declaration, as put, assumes certainty/knowledge based upon--in this case--your possibly erroneous or incompete definition of "known or unknown universe," which frank is obv a part of eh?
and again i dont mean to imply that you are "wrong" necessarily, but that you have *eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge* which is after all what most ppl, westerners particularly, tend to do. We reason according to what is now known as the Hegelian dialectic, which implies a winner and a loser, etc, and most of us simply cannot fathom any other way to reason, having been steeped in it from birth; it requires that one become gnostic, too, and saying "i don't know" becomes an admission of ignorance, or less-than?
What a catchy tune! Lol
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 27, 2021:
i have no idea what this is about, yet i find myself in total agreement! :D
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
ah, guess it was Two naked men in a canoe...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 27, 2021:
i have no idea what this is about, yet i find myself in total agreement! :D
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
ah, guess it was Two naked men in a canoe...
One of the more difficult aspects of being an atheist, at least from an outsider’s perspective, is...
KKGator comments on Mar 24, 2021:
No one here gets out alive.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@KKGator ok...fog thinks frank doesnt know where he is though, to which you agree, right. So that becomes a starting point, if you will; "frank doesnt belong here" (in this universe, so to speak)
KKGator comments on Mar 24, 2021:
No one here gets out alive.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@KKGator ok...fog thinks frank doesnt know where he is though, to which you agree, right. So that becomes a starting point, if you will; "frank doesnt belong here" (in this universe, so to speak)
Atheists and believers have different moral compasses | Live Science
think-beyond comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Atheists and believers are all believers. Believers BELIEVE there is a God. Atheists BELIEVE there is no God. I am a proud Agnostic. I recognize the vastness of our universe and say it impossible to know about ... what ever there is. So Atheists are very different from Agnostics.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@Tejas "I like to think I don't "believe" in anything without evidence"
i guess everyone likes to think that prolly?
think-beyond comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Atheists and believers are all believers. Believers BELIEVE there is a God. Atheists BELIEVE there is no God. I am a proud Agnostic. I recognize the vastness of our universe and say it impossible to know about ... what ever there is. So Atheists are very different from Agnostics.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
@Tejas "I like to think I don't "believe" in anything without evidence"
i guess everyone likes to think that prolly?
Tennessee lawmaker proposes making Holy Bible official state book — again | wbir.com
redhog comments on Mar 27, 2021:
First of all. Do not go lumping all of us rednecks into the same damned group with idiots like that.
Second, this is why Tennessee and Kentfucky combine to form the armpit of the US.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
ha i dunno, ever been to missouri?
redhog comments on Mar 27, 2021:
First of all. Do not go lumping all of us rednecks into the same damned group with idiots like that.
Second, this is why Tennessee and Kentfucky combine to form the armpit of the US.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 27, 2021:
ha i dunno, ever been to missouri?
Atheists and believers have different moral compasses | Live Science
think-beyond comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Atheists and believers are all believers. Believers BELIEVE there is a God. Atheists BELIEVE there is no God. I am a proud Agnostic. I recognize the vastness of our universe and say it impossible to know about ... what ever there is. So Atheists are very different from Agnostics.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@Tejas generally speaking i find atheists to be some of the most intractable "believers" lol. The "has to do with knowledge" is a fail imo, bc ignorance
think-beyond comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Atheists and believers are all believers. Believers BELIEVE there is a God. Atheists BELIEVE there is no God. I am a proud Agnostic. I recognize the vastness of our universe and say it impossible to know about ... what ever there is. So Atheists are very different from Agnostics.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@Tejas generally speaking i find atheists to be some of the most intractable "believers" lol. The "has to do with knowledge" is a fail imo, bc ignorance
One of the more difficult aspects of being an atheist, at least from an outsider’s perspective, is...
KKGator comments on Mar 24, 2021:
No one here gets out alive.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@KKGator well, you and all the scientists you care to corral cannot find something like 95% of the universe; we call what we can't find "dark" whatever, "matter" or "energy," but labelling it doesnt mean we know what it is. And the "95%" is kinda being played with some now i guess, but essentially still correct
KKGator comments on Mar 24, 2021:
No one here gets out alive.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@KKGator well, you and all the scientists you care to corral cannot find something like 95% of the universe; we call what we can't find "dark" whatever, "matter" or "energy," but labelling it doesnt mean we know what it is. And the "95%" is kinda being played with some now i guess, but essentially still correct
And I thought I had problems
FrayedBear comments on Mar 26, 2021:
It doesn't lessen your problems however.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
wait, what are we talking about
FrayedBear comments on Mar 26, 2021:
It doesn't lessen your problems however.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
wait, what are we talking about
And I thought I had problems
FrayedBear comments on Mar 26, 2021:
It doesn't lessen your problems however.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
ha well it might!
FrayedBear comments on Mar 26, 2021:
It doesn't lessen your problems however.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
ha well it might!
Atheists and believers have different moral compasses | Live Science
think-beyond comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Atheists and believers are all believers. Believers BELIEVE there is a God. Atheists BELIEVE there is no God. I am a proud Agnostic. I recognize the vastness of our universe and say it impossible to know about ... what ever there is. So Atheists are very different from Agnostics.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@Tejas "One has to do with knowledge the (other) has to do with belief the two do not relate"
ha well or at least they shouldn't, huh? But irl i guess it doesnt work like that
think-beyond comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Atheists and believers are all believers. Believers BELIEVE there is a God. Atheists BELIEVE there is no God. I am a proud Agnostic. I recognize the vastness of our universe and say it impossible to know about ... what ever there is. So Atheists are very different from Agnostics.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@Tejas "One has to do with knowledge the (other) has to do with belief the two do not relate"
ha well or at least they shouldn't, huh? But irl i guess it doesnt work like that
Atheists and believers have different moral compasses | Live Science
think-beyond comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Atheists and believers are all believers. Believers BELIEVE there is a God. Atheists BELIEVE there is no God. I am a proud Agnostic. I recognize the vastness of our universe and say it impossible to know about ... what ever there is. So Atheists are very different from Agnostics.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@think-beyond word
think-beyond comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Atheists and believers are all believers. Believers BELIEVE there is a God. Atheists BELIEVE there is no God. I am a proud Agnostic. I recognize the vastness of our universe and say it impossible to know about ... what ever there is. So Atheists are very different from Agnostics.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@think-beyond word
One of the more difficult aspects of being an atheist, at least from an outsider’s perspective, is...
freeofgod comments on Mar 24, 2021:
I don't see a link.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@freeofgod so fwiw if you were to define *your* concept of Yah--"God is going to judge me, God is going to send me to heaven/hell" whatever--i could maybe point out the vv that call those into question, if you like; bc that is all bullshit, not in the Bible anywhere
or iow what "god" are you "freeof?" What if He never existed anyway; are you still free of Him? Then *that* is the God i believe in, which i guess makes no sense huh
freeofgod comments on Mar 24, 2021:
I don't see a link.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@freeofgod so fwiw if you were to define *your* concept of Yah--"God is going to judge me, God is going to send me to heaven/hell" whatever--i could maybe point out the vv that call those into question, if you like; bc that is all bullshit, not in the Bible anywhere
or iow what "god" are you "freeof?" What if He never existed anyway; are you still free of Him? Then *that* is the God i believe in, which i guess makes no sense huh
One of the more difficult aspects of being an atheist, at least from an outsider’s perspective, is...
freeofgod comments on Mar 24, 2021:
I don't see a link.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@freeofgod well, the "God" i believe in cannot be defined, certainly not the anthropo...personified Olde White Guy with a Long White Beard...actually *you* would (in a sense) be a better definition than that imo, "*...you are Elohim*" and all that?
So to be a little clearer, i hate religion as much as you do, maybe more, if that helps any. I "love and believe" but i also "hate and disbelieve" some days, too, usually bc i have once again defined Yah i guess, nothing but grief there imo
notice how the NT is basically a record of the *implosion* of a theocracy? YHWH (their vowels, more like AEOU to us, translated) is prolly not meant to be the concept that we have been presented, let's say; the Monty Python version i kinda like though :)
we like to "define" shit, right, and then live or die by that definition?
freeofgod comments on Mar 24, 2021:
I don't see a link.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@freeofgod well, the "God" i believe in cannot be defined, certainly not the anthropo...personified Olde White Guy with a Long White Beard...actually *you* would (in a sense) be a better definition than that imo, "*...you are Elohim*" and all that?
So to be a little clearer, i hate religion as much as you do, maybe more, if that helps any. I "love and believe" but i also "hate and disbelieve" some days, too, usually bc i have once again defined Yah i guess, nothing but grief there imo
notice how the NT is basically a record of the *implosion* of a theocracy? YHWH (their vowels, more like AEOU to us, translated) is prolly not meant to be the concept that we have been presented, let's say; the Monty Python version i kinda like though :)
we like to "define" shit, right, and then live or die by that definition?
One of the more difficult aspects of being an atheist, at least from an outsider’s perspective, is...
KKGator comments on Mar 24, 2021:
No one here gets out alive.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@freeofgod, @KKGator "knowing" is a pretty dangerous position, at least imo
esp from ppl who collectively cannot find like 95% of the universe?
KKGator comments on Mar 24, 2021:
No one here gets out alive.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
@freeofgod, @KKGator "knowing" is a pretty dangerous position, at least imo
esp from ppl who collectively cannot find like 95% of the universe?
One of the more difficult aspects of being an atheist, at least from an outsider’s perspective, is...
freeofgod comments on Mar 24, 2021:
I don't see a link.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
"faith" as a noun, arg
@freeofgod "agnostic" is a term that ppl define differently, i guess? More or less like "God" i guess too. Anyway, point being that "gnostic/agnostic" orig had zero to do with the q of Yah's "existence," which lets admit no one has any "objective evidence" for anyway right
i love God and believe in Him myself, even if we are talking about a diff God than you have likely defined, in order to even ask that q; making you the gnostic, wadr
if you have determined that there is no God, why are you on an agnostic site? One might ask
hope you arent taking this wrong, imo its all in our heads anyway :)
freeofgod comments on Mar 24, 2021:
I don't see a link.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 26, 2021:
"faith" as a noun, arg
@freeofgod "agnostic" is a term that ppl define differently, i guess? More or less like "God" i guess too. Anyway, point being that "gnostic/agnostic" orig had zero to do with the q of Yah's "existence," which lets admit no one has any "objective evidence" for anyway right
i love God and believe in Him myself, even if we are talking about a diff God than you have likely defined, in order to even ask that q; making you the gnostic, wadr
if you have determined that there is no God, why are you on an agnostic site? One might ask
hope you arent taking this wrong, imo its all in our heads anyway :)
Powerful Pentecostal Movement Aims to Conquer “Seven Mountains” of American Life | Val Wilde | ...
KKGator comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Oh, FFS!!
Give me a break!
I'll fight (legally) this kind of garbage until the day I die.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 25, 2021:
@KKGator i wish you the best there ok
what if you are *currently* being ruled by delusional religiotards tho?
one pop theory has it that we are intentionally put into competition, with each other, and etc, the Hegelian dialectic, blah blahblah nevermind lol. go get 'em! i guess
KKGator comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Oh, FFS!!
Give me a break!
I'll fight (legally) this kind of garbage until the day I die.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 25, 2021:
@KKGator i wish you the best there ok
what if you are *currently* being ruled by delusional religiotards tho?
one pop theory has it that we are intentionally put into competition, with each other, and etc, the Hegelian dialectic, blah blahblah nevermind lol. go get 'em! i guess
Powerful Pentecostal Movement Aims to Conquer “Seven Mountains” of American Life | Val Wilde | ...
KKGator comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Oh, FFS!!
Give me a break!
I'll fight (legally) this kind of garbage until the day I die.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 25, 2021:
@KKGator well...as the article also touches on, you are now in an "us v them" scenario, and this is most likely going to change *you,* not them; iow you are now *also* involved in "spiritual warfare" even if you might call it something else, as opposed to *the battle is already won* type thinking
so, i dont mean to dissuade you ok, but imo...at least learn from the outcome of your efforts :)
"everybody wants to rule the world"
KKGator comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Oh, FFS!!
Give me a break!
I'll fight (legally) this kind of garbage until the day I die.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 25, 2021:
@KKGator well...as the article also touches on, you are now in an "us v them" scenario, and this is most likely going to change *you,* not them; iow you are now *also* involved in "spiritual warfare" even if you might call it something else, as opposed to *the battle is already won* type thinking
so, i dont mean to dissuade you ok, but imo...at least learn from the outcome of your efforts :)
"everybody wants to rule the world"
Powerful Pentecostal Movement Aims to Conquer “Seven Mountains” of American Life | Val Wilde | ...
KKGator comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Oh, FFS!!
Give me a break!
I'll fight (legally) this kind of garbage until the day I die.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 25, 2021:
then you have already lost, in a sense
KKGator comments on Mar 25, 2021:
Oh, FFS!!
Give me a break!
I'll fight (legally) this kind of garbage until the day I die.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 25, 2021:
then you have already lost, in a sense
One of the more difficult aspects of being an atheist, at least from an outsider’s perspective, is...
freeofgod comments on Mar 24, 2021:
I don't see a link.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/03/24/an-atheist-shares-the-helpful-email-she-received-after-her-fathers-death/
freeofgod comments on Mar 24, 2021:
I don't see a link.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/03/24/an-atheist-shares-the-helpful-email-she-received-after-her-fathers-death/
Article on Religous trauma
[newrepublic.com]
xenoview comments on Mar 24, 2021:
Good news that people are leaving the church. Hopefully more people will stop being faithfools.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
seems like pretty much everyone cycles through "church" and then leaves, don't they?
xenoview comments on Mar 24, 2021:
Good news that people are leaving the church. Hopefully more people will stop being faithfools.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
seems like pretty much everyone cycles through "church" and then leaves, don't they?
Article on Religous trauma
[newrepublic.com]
anglophone comments on Mar 23, 2021:
That article does not surprise me. Moreover, it defines one of the reasons why I am so hostile to every God Mobster on the planet.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
@anglophone welcome to childhood? I mean why is she seeking counseling rather than just avoiding those places, iyo
iow why be traumatized/hostile when you can just leave/ignore? Why rent them the head space? Financial predators all up in your shit, you still using dollars right :)
anglophone comments on Mar 23, 2021:
That article does not surprise me. Moreover, it defines one of the reasons why I am so hostile to every God Mobster on the planet.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
@anglophone welcome to childhood? I mean why is she seeking counseling rather than just avoiding those places, iyo
iow why be traumatized/hostile when you can just leave/ignore? Why rent them the head space? Financial predators all up in your shit, you still using dollars right :)
Bible 2.0...
phxbillcee comments on Mar 23, 2021:
Somebody nuke the creep!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
@phxbillcee ha, why? The myth plainly states, many places, that it is not to be taken literally,
*How is it you did not know I was not talking about bread?* etc
not that you could very practically nuke a religion either though lol
but i mean why "nuke" anything? Why not just recog :)
phxbillcee comments on Mar 23, 2021:
Somebody nuke the creep!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
@phxbillcee ha, why? The myth plainly states, many places, that it is not to be taken literally,
*How is it you did not know I was not talking about bread?* etc
not that you could very practically nuke a religion either though lol
but i mean why "nuke" anything? Why not just recog :)
Article on Religous trauma
[newrepublic.com]
anglophone comments on Mar 23, 2021:
That article does not surprise me. Moreover, it defines one of the reasons why I am so hostile to every God Mobster on the planet.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
well fwiw the Bible very plainly tells everyone to run, run like the wind away from established religion; more than one way too. Not that i'm not sympathetic to the traumatized, but it is pretty much self-inflicted?
anglophone comments on Mar 23, 2021:
That article does not surprise me. Moreover, it defines one of the reasons why I am so hostile to every God Mobster on the planet.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
well fwiw the Bible very plainly tells everyone to run, run like the wind away from established religion; more than one way too. Not that i'm not sympathetic to the traumatized, but it is pretty much self-inflicted?
I've gotta calm the hell down.
MrDragon comments on Mar 23, 2021:
That's a good thing to do, but how are you going to do it? Just curious.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
@Dyl1983 or microdose :)
MrDragon comments on Mar 23, 2021:
That's a good thing to do, but how are you going to do it? Just curious.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
@Dyl1983 or microdose :)
Bible 2.0...
phxbillcee comments on Mar 23, 2021:
Somebody nuke the creep!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
@phxbillcee you have a million things a surely composite/fictional character has done to you? I got all day
phxbillcee comments on Mar 23, 2021:
Somebody nuke the creep!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 24, 2021:
@phxbillcee you have a million things a surely composite/fictional character has done to you? I got all day
Bible 2.0...
phxbillcee comments on Mar 23, 2021:
Somebody nuke the creep!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 23, 2021:
ha what has jesus ever done to you, one might ask
phxbillcee comments on Mar 23, 2021:
Somebody nuke the creep!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 23, 2021:
ha what has jesus ever done to you, one might ask
Just traveling the back roads shooting whatever I see
Killtheskyfairy comments on Mar 18, 2021:
I hate fucking Amish!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2021:
restrict yourself to oral with them then maybe?
:D
Killtheskyfairy comments on Mar 18, 2021:
I hate fucking Amish!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2021:
restrict yourself to oral with them then maybe?
:D
TX Paper Erases Son’s Husband from Mom’s Obituary: It’s “Contrary to God’s Word” | ...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2021:
"That's because" ever seen an obit with inlaws in it anyway? no
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2021:
@snytiger6 i dont think they are generally included?
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2021:
"That's because" ever seen an obit with inlaws in it anyway? no
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2021:
@snytiger6 i dont think they are generally included?
These Religious Leaders Are Encouraging Their Congregations to Get Vaccinated | Hemant Mehta | ...
ABack comments on Mar 18, 2021:
Well, I suppose that's basically acknowledging your failure. If God doesn't answer your prayers it's time to get vaccinated!
They are lucky tho that they have the scriptures as they are so ambiguous that anyone can interpret it just the way they please.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
"you dont read the Bible; the Bible reads you"
ABack comments on Mar 18, 2021:
Well, I suppose that's basically acknowledging your failure. If God doesn't answer your prayers it's time to get vaccinated!
They are lucky tho that they have the scriptures as they are so ambiguous that anyone can interpret it just the way they please.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
"you dont read the Bible; the Bible reads you"
TX Paper Erases Son’s Husband from Mom’s Obituary: It’s “Contrary to God’s Word” | ...
DenoPenno comments on Mar 16, 2021:
Simply remove the word "husband" and call the man a "partner" or something. "Barry Giles and partner John Gambill" should do it.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
pretty sure ol Barry has a diff agenda though lol
obits don't include inlaws anyway!
DenoPenno comments on Mar 16, 2021:
Simply remove the word "husband" and call the man a "partner" or something. "Barry Giles and partner John Gambill" should do it.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
pretty sure ol Barry has a diff agenda though lol
obits don't include inlaws anyway!
The Spa Shooting Suspect Was a Born Again Baptist Who Was “Big into Religion” | Hemant Mehta | ...
DenoPenno comments on Mar 17, 2021:
Into god and for some reason it looks like he is into racism. Were the Georgia Asian men and women into porn movies? Why would this nutjob think he was doing the work of his god?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
maybe bc we all define "God" according to our purposes?
DenoPenno comments on Mar 17, 2021:
Into god and for some reason it looks like he is into racism. Were the Georgia Asian men and women into porn movies? Why would this nutjob think he was doing the work of his god?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
maybe bc we all define "God" according to our purposes?
The Spa Shooting Suspect Was a Born Again Baptist Who Was “Big into Religion” | Hemant Mehta | ...
Barnie2years comments on Mar 17, 2021:
His parents turned him in according to the evening news. And he was on his way to Florida with the intent to shoot up a porn production company. In his perv mind he was doing the work of the lord! I am really surprised his Baptist parents turned him in.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
maybe they were more into God? :)
Barnie2years comments on Mar 17, 2021:
His parents turned him in according to the evening news. And he was on his way to Florida with the intent to shoot up a porn production company. In his perv mind he was doing the work of the lord! I am really surprised his Baptist parents turned him in.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
maybe they were more into God? :)
Optimists may feel better, but they're wrong more often...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2021:
ha discovered Demotivators huh
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
@phxbillcee ah i initially joined and then barely attended for a couple years i think
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2021:
ha discovered Demotivators huh
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
@phxbillcee ah i initially joined and then barely attended for a couple years i think
Acceptance doesn't infer commendation...
glennlab comments on Mar 18, 2021:
Fuck it, this is as grown up as I'm going to become.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
i might even regress a little :D
glennlab comments on Mar 18, 2021:
Fuck it, this is as grown up as I'm going to become.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
i might even regress a little :D
Charlie Kirk Was Fired from the Liberty University “Think Tank” Named After Him | Hemant Mehta |...
CuddyCruiser comments on Mar 17, 2021:
There’s no shortage of whackjobs to replace any of them they’re all maggots.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
ok yikes
CuddyCruiser comments on Mar 17, 2021:
There’s no shortage of whackjobs to replace any of them they’re all maggots.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2021:
ok yikes
Possibly...
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 25, 2021:
narf
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2021:
@TCorCM ah, pinky and the brain
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 25, 2021:
narf
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2021:
@TCorCM ah, pinky and the brain
One of the Four Horsemen, with good reason...(in both senses)
waitingforgodo comments on Mar 14, 2021:
Fundamentally fallacious fact-fearers feel falsifying fact-finders forensic findings fitting.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2021:
@waitingforgodo well that escalated quickly
waitingforgodo comments on Mar 14, 2021:
Fundamentally fallacious fact-fearers feel falsifying fact-finders forensic findings fitting.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2021:
@waitingforgodo well that escalated quickly
Will social pressure and perks work to get folks vaccinated?
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2021:
yes, and i empathize, even while i hold more or less the opposite opinion. I (nominally) work for the gov, transportation authority, and we get $500 (of your $) to get vaccinated. Not sure how that sits with you, i guess ok, if borrowing umpty-ump trillions of dollars to enrich already rich ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2021:
@Julie808 well, you are just a carrier now? no longer contagious?
i dunno, do what seems best to you yeh
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2021:
yes, and i empathize, even while i hold more or less the opposite opinion. I (nominally) work for the gov, transportation authority, and we get $500 (of your $) to get vaccinated. Not sure how that sits with you, i guess ok, if borrowing umpty-ump trillions of dollars to enrich already rich ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2021:
@Julie808 well, you are just a carrier now? no longer contagious?
i dunno, do what seems best to you yeh
‘We’re getting attacked.
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 17, 2021:
ok i know that this is not what you have been raised with, but allopaths sell remedies for symptoms, and do not really give a shit about patients, cures, or causes of disease; that would get them kicked out of the AMA lol. They dont even live as long as the rest of us! So i mean bam go to someone ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@AnneWimsey 1950 idc, the point is still valid imo; allopaths are clueless symptom-treaters, who know virtually nothing about "health," and many/most of them would even admit as much i think
and at post 2, you might be right there, sure!
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 17, 2021:
ok i know that this is not what you have been raised with, but allopaths sell remedies for symptoms, and do not really give a shit about patients, cures, or causes of disease; that would get them kicked out of the AMA lol. They dont even live as long as the rest of us! So i mean bam go to someone ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@AnneWimsey 1950 idc, the point is still valid imo; allopaths are clueless symptom-treaters, who know virtually nothing about "health," and many/most of them would even admit as much i think
and at post 2, you might be right there, sure!
Will social pressure and perks work to get folks vaccinated?
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2021:
yes, and i empathize, even while i hold more or less the opposite opinion. I (nominally) work for the gov, transportation authority, and we get $500 (of your $) to get vaccinated. Not sure how that sits with you, i guess ok, if borrowing umpty-ump trillions of dollars to enrich already rich ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@Julie808, @Canndue so, remember when "flatten the curve" was still a thing? I'm curious, are you going to wear a mask the rest of your life, to avoid getting c-19? Bc near as i can tell thats what you'll have to do guys
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2021:
yes, and i empathize, even while i hold more or less the opposite opinion. I (nominally) work for the gov, transportation authority, and we get $500 (of your $) to get vaccinated. Not sure how that sits with you, i guess ok, if borrowing umpty-ump trillions of dollars to enrich already rich ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@Julie808, @Canndue so, remember when "flatten the curve" was still a thing? I'm curious, are you going to wear a mask the rest of your life, to avoid getting c-19? Bc near as i can tell thats what you'll have to do guys
FROM RED COMET, BIOGRAPHY OF SYLVIA PLATH: in a 1952 paper for her religion class at Smith, man was ...
think-beyond comments on Mar 13, 2021:
For her religion class? I wonder what the reaction was? That's chutzpah!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@Healthydoc70 my kinda girl tbh
think-beyond comments on Mar 13, 2021:
For her religion class? I wonder what the reaction was? That's chutzpah!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@Healthydoc70 my kinda girl tbh
FROM RED COMET, BIOGRAPHY OF SYLVIA PLATH: in a 1952 paper for her religion class at Smith, man was ...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2021:
she calls herself an agnostic, but makes statements of fact as if they were truth? ok
and she is a suicide to boot?
priceless
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@racocn8 ok, interesting, ty; gnosticism is tuff, huh? (ACTUALLY, circumstances ARE...)
the end does mind me of ourselves, building our own egos. Remember when you didnt recognize your"self" in a mirror? me neither!
"Humanity will be extinct soon" hmm, ok then
hedge your bets there imo k
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2021:
she calls herself an agnostic, but makes statements of fact as if they were truth? ok
and she is a suicide to boot?
priceless
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@racocn8 ok, interesting, ty; gnosticism is tuff, huh? (ACTUALLY, circumstances ARE...)
the end does mind me of ourselves, building our own egos. Remember when you didnt recognize your"self" in a mirror? me neither!
"Humanity will be extinct soon" hmm, ok then
hedge your bets there imo k
Take five, folks. You deserve it...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 14, 2021:
ha isnt that a catholic thing? :)
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@phxbillcee ha zing!
ok, roman catholic then, my bad
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 14, 2021:
ha isnt that a catholic thing? :)
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@phxbillcee ha zing!
ok, roman catholic then, my bad
&, back again, Atheist Pig!!!
Killtheskyfairy comments on Mar 14, 2021:
Happens every time! Especially with the severely religious!😱
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
well, but *Gehenna* is on earth...
and arent we all made from cells, the "dust of the earth?"
etc
Killtheskyfairy comments on Mar 14, 2021:
Happens every time! Especially with the severely religious!😱
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
well, but *Gehenna* is on earth...
and arent we all made from cells, the "dust of the earth?"
etc
&, back again, Atheist Pig!!!
Lizard_of_Ahaz comments on Mar 13, 2021:
So if we all came from dirt why is there still dirt?....
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
we all came from dirt? huh?
oh sorry, intentionally misunderstanding so as to make jokes i am having trouble getting i guess
Lizard_of_Ahaz comments on Mar 13, 2021:
So if we all came from dirt why is there still dirt?....
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
we all came from dirt? huh?
oh sorry, intentionally misunderstanding so as to make jokes i am having trouble getting i guess
Not as ageless as Keith Richards...
glennlab comments on Mar 14, 2021:
come on she's 74 looks 60, Kieth is 77 looks 104
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
i thot she showed a lotta class with Sonny too
glennlab comments on Mar 14, 2021:
come on she's 74 looks 60, Kieth is 77 looks 104
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
i thot she showed a lotta class with Sonny too
FROM RED COMET, BIOGRAPHY OF SYLVIA PLATH: in a 1952 paper for her religion class at Smith, man was ...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2021:
she calls herself an agnostic, but makes statements of fact as if they were truth? ok
and she is a suicide to boot?
priceless
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@racocn8 "Actually, circumstances are worse than she says"
how so? ty
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2021:
she calls herself an agnostic, but makes statements of fact as if they were truth? ok
and she is a suicide to boot?
priceless
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
@racocn8 "Actually, circumstances are worse than she says"
how so? ty
FROM RED COMET, BIOGRAPHY OF SYLVIA PLATH: in a 1952 paper for her religion class at Smith, man was ...
DenoPenno comments on Mar 13, 2021:
I do not know why she was a suicide. I do know that her statements as listed here are all we can come to with logic and evidence. If you personally believe we live on after death in any form please provide some evidence. The old argument that energy lives on in some other form and we are energy ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
*no one knows where they go when they die *huh
DenoPenno comments on Mar 13, 2021:
I do not know why she was a suicide. I do know that her statements as listed here are all we can come to with logic and evidence. If you personally believe we live on after death in any form please provide some evidence. The old argument that energy lives on in some other form and we are energy ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2021:
*no one knows where they go when they die *huh
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