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I just read that in the USA, Water became the most consumed bottled product in 2017. Here is Oz I am pretty certain it is still the various offerings of Coke. Not sure which I find most disturbing.

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Perhaps even more disturbing, here in Australia at least, is the fact that the bottled water is often no better at all than the local tap water, and that the same multinational companies that sell the soft drinks also sell the bottled water, ripping it out of the ground under license or not and in places significantly affecting the local ecology.

Nestles

@btroje president of nestle said people didn't have a right to clean water.... meanwhile the deal they have to filling up their plastic water bottles comes from a reservoir of water they paid a small fee for which is owned by the public. when I do buy bottled water it's never Nestle.

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@hankster Never Nestleanything. The Swiss company urges 3rd world women to use tainted water & dilute formula instead of breast feeding infants. The idea is to make them feel modern so they will buy formula. Diluted there is less nutrition, with tainted water there are diseases & as we all know nothing is better than mother's milk.Nothing Nestle ever.

this Peter here is yuge in the food industry in the world. there's no telling what he thinks we don't have a right to.

@Countrywoman none..... one of the uglier faces of capitalism.

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We filter our well water and drink it, my main drink. However, I drink coffee, tea, juice, almond milk, and rarely something else.

Pretty much my own routine, too.

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Whats sad is the plastic left behind.

Not only does it leave plastic trash, it's a waste of money in times when people have little.

Also consider the amount of fuel and the environmental impact of moving these bottles all around the country! Madness!

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Capitalism pollutes our water then charges us for clean water.

Capitalism or corrupt politicians ? It's all about kickbacks, job promises, stocks, etc...

Follow the money trail.

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Of course bottled water is highly consumed, the stuff that comes out of the facet is poisonous (reminder the Flint still doesn’t have clean water).

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I don't buy water in plastic bottles... but then, I don't have any use for water as I only drink wine smile001.gif

There's an old folk song "Stewball":

Old Stewball was a racehorse, and I wish he were mine
He never drank water, he always drank wine

For me coffee, then wine!

@Akfishlady I have my coffee so strong there's no room left in the cup for water!

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Anything in a plastic bottle is disturbing. Recycling is becoming overburdened and the Chinese market for our recyclables is drying up. We really are a wasteful people.

Here the plastic bottles are shredded. The plastic used is ideal for 3D printers and there is a much larger return for shredded plastic than the raw form. My question is that the plastic is still there and in a new form which may be even harder to recycle. Have you seen the latest National Geographic? [nationalgeographic.com]

@JackPedigo, as long as the high graded plastics (1 & 2) don't get mixed with grades 3, 4, 5 etc. - which happens where i live - it is possible to recycle the material, creating (though inferior) products from it. but eventually there's nothing the increasingly inferior stuff can be turned into.

@walklightly It is a hard issue. Here we have an independent recycling, trash transfer and take-it-or-leave-it facility. Volunteers run the recycling section (and all the other sections - there are only 3 paid positions) and everything is strictly controlled. I also just heard that a neighboring town on the mainland passed an ordnance banning single use plastic bags. Here is a snapshot of the town which is a tourist mecca. Hold the view and it will change. [lovelaconner.com]

@JackPedigo, la conner appears to be a precious place to live. i used to be really happy living in the little bubble of byron that is a holiday destination. until developers kept coming, & from a certain point i couldn't afford to live there any more. now it's more like this.

It's the same problem everywhere. Desirable places get large influxes of people. As places are hit with bad weather due to Climate Change or growth people are pushed out. Overpopulation is always at the root of all our issues. La Conner is one side of the Skagit river (3rd biggest in the state). On the other side is a large native reservation which is poor. Jobs are scarce and many residents are artists or retirees or small farmers. Zero Population Growth is what is critical for the whole world.

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It is awful that we buy into this still.

Excellent video, and a superb presenter too - I'm going to share that with my colleagues who all buy two or three bottles of water each day because, they say when I ask them why, "you can't trust tap water".

@Jnei Ask them to google ''your city' drinking water test' It's very often available online. If not call the water dept and ask. Also mention that IF the water has potability issues, 5 gal jugs can be delivered or swapped out in many grocery stores, and reusable containers used. I think there is a basis for considering stainless steel a better container for both purity and sustainability.

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All that plastic going to landfills or the ocean...ugh. I use a reverse osmosis filter to filter tap water. I also buy natural spring water in refillable 5 gallon jugs from a nearby natural spring.

It is my understanding that reverse osmosis wastes 4 gallons of water for each gallon of product. Is there any truth in that?

@dahermit Yes, unfortunately, there is some wasted water. I'm not sure of the ratio. I don't use a large amount of RO water just enough for making tea etc. About 70% of residential water use in Colorado is used on watering lawns. I got rid of about 90% of my front lawn and replaced it with xeriscaping.

In my view, each human life will place a demand on the natural resources of the planet whether it be water, fossil fuels, wood, coal etc. Each of us becomes a consumer of goods. I do what I can to minimize that.

@dahermit yes, sort of. If you are using say sea water and extracted 5 gallons of fresh water from it. You would need to use 4 gallons (approx) of that freash water to flush your system, so would only yield 1 gallon of fresh for you.

@Rugglesby Yes. That is my understanding also. Practical for seawater conversion (Catalina Island, Sudi Arabia), but not so practical for American residential, albeit a very clean product (even removes Radon gas).

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It's stunning to me that, even with all we know about plastic pollution and waste, people still buy bottled water. Should be illegal except in cases of urgent need.

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I find both very disturbing. I don't allow either in my home, save the occasional root beer for floats.

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I know this is true and find the basic fact disturbing. When my late partner's daughter would visit us both in Seattle and on island she would buy a case of bottled water. Seattle has some of the best and cleanest water in the country ( [seattle.gov] watch the slide show). Better yet

On island I have both a personal well and a water harvesting system. Unfortunately, she was so set on bottled water nothing could change her mind. Years ago a group checking our pollution in companies found a large industry that dumped their wastes in a large pit. This pit was close to another well in which a company that sold bottled water was located!!! Often bottled water is also polluted.
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Also disturbing to me, at least, is all those plastic bottles that it comes in.

We could change to hemp plastics if the oil lobby would die.

@McVinegar now that's a great plan! How do we hasten that day?

@moonmaid Unfortunately I am not sure that can happen without dystopia. I wish big business would be more ethical towards the world in general.

@McVinegar i actually agree with you on this. However, i have my doubts that it will happen.

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Thought in Oz beer was ?   Lol The offerings of sugary drinks is problem world wide. here in SA we now have the first sugar tax and it hits people like coke big time. We also learned to use 25 ltr of water per day per person because of the drought. Humans in 1st world countries like America waste a lot of water !

I don't drink but id rather buy beer than fucking water for that money.

@LeighShelton
Why do you think there are so many drinkers ? LOL

@VAL3941 of course

@LeighShelton
In SA beer us cheaper than petrol too !

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I try to avoid using uneccesary plastic at all costs! My Brita water pitcher gets a good workout daily.

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Many of the bottling companies have been found to be bottling water from the same source as homes. They filter it (maybe),  then bottle it, and  sell it to those foolish enough to believe it's "better",  or more pure somehow.    Then there's the other companies that are pumping down aquifers worldwide ,  as much as they want - all for the price of an occasional pumping permit.  And people pay stupid prices for the privilege of drinking it out of plastic-damn-bottles !  

This response is true. A major water company just admitted there is nothing special about their water. However, sales did not drop after the admission.

@Fanburger More sheeple - all well brainwashed ...

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Coke & other hydration companies are pumping the ground water out of the aquifer in Michigan. Resulting in huge profits for the poor overly taxed multi billion dollar corporations & sink holes developing where there should be none. All at tax payers expense as we learn to purchase water instead of demanding clean water for all via our government.

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While watering the garden yesterday I had a drink out of the hose which is from my well, still alive this morning. smile009.gif This is what Canadians drink, you just drive right up and get some Tims, too bad they don't serve beer smile002.gif.

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I remember when water was something that you drank from the tap. Very sad!

Unfortunately, there are some naturally occuring toxins that where previously overlooked, like arsenic, heavy metals, fluoride, and sometimes nitrate. We were drinking it all along. Ignorance is bliss. Testing is now more precise and more widely utilized. There are cities all over the US with unacceptable levels of arsenic. [publicintegrity.org]

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I think bottled water isn't about the water. It's the convenience that people are after. You might say the same thing about TV dinners, home delivery, and bagged salad.

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Yeah then they throw the bottles in a land fill and wonder why plastic is a problem.

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On Tamborine Mtn, the underground water is sold in great tanker-loads, multiple per day, mostly to Coca Cola Amatil, who own the Mt Franklin Water brand. Local creeks and bores are affected. Aquifer depleted.

Coca-Cola is an evil company.

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yep, and
[news.bbc.co.uk]

@NFAguy53
In Atlanta you can't get anything but Coke products in most restaurants. Ask if they carry Pepsi and get shot with eye daggers. It's crazy cultish.

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I don't understand the bottled water craze when my taps full of the stuff.

I have never bought bottled water, lots of other stuff in bottles, never water.

Probably full of fluoride and chlorine.

@Ellatynemouth I've managed just fine for 57 years

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Several years ago I bought an under sink reverse osmosis system. Easy to install, very affordable to buy, "less than $200 ", and the water quality is great.

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I still drink tap water.

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