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What would you think if a religious person said they did not believe in magic ?

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Look, there is a big difference between Magic and Miracles.....erm.....they are spelled differently?


Sure, sweetie. Water into wine, humans out of dust. Angels, walking on water, water splitting. Yeah honey, you need a long nap.


You mean like turning water to wine?

That trick was done by magic mushrooms.

God made everything perfect, like weed too. Just not according to the federal Government standards.


Slow blink. Slowly walk backwards. Repeat over and over: "Not my circus, not my monkeys." lol



Oooh, hark at you n your big words ?


You can thank the Catholic Church for the word. You know what it means I presume.

@Ellatynemouth i struggle with words above two syllables (n the 2 syllable ones are mostly swear words ?)


What is this conversation about?

@Ellatynemouth in Ireland we call it slagging ( the english refer to it as 'taking the piss' ?


I wasn't sure. But I suspected you were taking the piss.

Thanks for clarifying.


I would laugh &laugh


I don't suppose I'd care.

Kbdank71 Level 7 June 22, 2018

I'd think, everyone chooses their own level of self-delusion. ?


I explain that they do believe in magic, Divine Magic, and I explain they are actually practicing Sorcery.

It tends to make them irritated, but it is a fact.


And then I walk away...
Silly christians


that's funny. i explained to my son that religious people pray because they think prayers are magic words that do magical things.

... and that's a very accurate way of describing it, no ?


It pays to be good at compartmentalization. Rabbits from hats go in this box. Walking on water goes in that box. As long as the boxes don't mix, everything is hunky dory.

Where we run into trouble is when an atheist/agnostic consults his/her horoscope. Know what I mean?


I don’t believe you.


I'd think "well that's total crap what do you think prayer and miracles are but magic, just call it what it is". What I'd say? Probably nothing.

moonmaid Level 8 June 22, 2018

I'd laugh my ass off. Most religions are based on "magic" and he supernatural.

snytiger6 Level 9 June 22, 2018

Do you mean like the trinity ,virgin birth ,pope

Marine Level 8 June 22, 2018

Well fundamentalists by and large don't believe in magic, as they use the term. To them magic is not merely doing things contrary to the laws of nature, it is doing them with the help of the devil. It's fine to do it with god's help. Entirely different thing to them. Satan = magic. God = miracles. Apples and oranges.

Depending on the individual they may not believe in "magic" as defined above because they don't think Satan has any real power, at least in their lives, since they're filled with the Holy Spirit, etc. Others live in terror of the power of Satan. It all depends on what fulcrum of control their handlers use -- which dogma is emphasized.

mordant Level 8 June 22, 2018

I think the point is that the entire concept of a god IS magical. Just because they try to make a distinction between the two, doesn't mean there is a difference. Everything about their god is a fantasy of magic.

@pashaonenine Oh I agree the distinction is specious. I'm simply explaining a coping mechanism, not justifying it.


Please define your version of magic

oldFloyd Level 7 June 22, 2018

Not even in a young girl’s heart? How the music can free her whenever it starts? The Magic’s in the music and the music’s in me.

My mom wouldn’t let my sister come see David Copperfield with us when my aunt offered to buy us tickets because there were “things that couldn’t be explained” that were surely the work of the devil ? no I assured her, as someone who had studied magic illusions. These things can absolutely be explained, quit being silly. Her belief in and fear of magic persisted though.

I once had an old fogey of a Pentecostal explain to me because I liked to work on computers: “did you know if you convert the letters of the word “computer” to numbers where A is 1 B is 2 etc... and then add them up that it comes to 666? If I hadn’t been raised to respect my elders I would have said “a) no it doesn’t and b) did you know that you’re practicing numerology to figure that out, and that’s clearly defined as witchcraft in the Bible?”

Wurlitzer Level 8 June 22, 2018

Lol! No "computer" coded as he describes adds up to 110, not 666. You'd think he'd at least be curious enough to check it out. This is a perfect example of how campfire stories spread; people are willing to embrace them based on credulous belief in the source.

I wondered if this was a corruption of adding up the ASCII values of the letters but that falls short also at 622. So clearly someone just made this up.

SMH ...

Props for citing The Lovin' Spoonful.



I have to agree with this. I remember when I first started dating my wife, I had a conversation with my Dad that started with the words, "Dad, I met a girl..."

I found out that he had said the same exact words to my Grandfather.

When my son started dating his wife, I received a phone call from my very inebriated son. The first words out of his mouth was, "Dad, I met a girl..."

Yes! Magic exists. It's the magic of knowing when you've met the One and Only for you. It hit my Father. It hit me. It hit my son. Anyone that says Magic doesn't exist, I would call a liar right to their face.



AnneWimsey Level 8 June 22, 2018

They think, EVERYTHING not from the gospel, is from the devil....including they are afraid of it and can't admit there is such a thing...poor bastards. Caught up in a religion of love that is based in fear....ya, good luck with that!...hahahaha

DrewShourd Level 7 June 22, 2018

Hi Axlefoley i would have to say that, that person doesn't like excitement, & thrill, its also amazment they've probably been misled to believe its evil or demonic

Legion Level 4 June 22, 2018

I laugh and say something to the effect: poof, we're not here; poof, we are. Magic trick. Poof, take a rib (men aren't missing any) and poof woman. A little food for many; poof, more than enough. Poof; rising from the dead. Many, many more examples of magic in the Bible.

xyz123 Level 7 June 22, 2018

The next question how did the demigod change water to wine (My answer would have been powdered alcohol)
Then how to come back from the dead (My answer a tad of tetrodotoxin from a stonefish after it wears off victim become revived)
Part the red sea (My answer the red sea parts as a natural phenomenon every so often)
Someone recently told me their deity was not magical. My reply is what do you call it then?

azzow2 Level 9 June 22, 2018
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