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For New Years😛atronizing things that religious people say to us. My Top 10. What are yours?;

1 You know deep down you really believe in God / Reply - No, deep down I really can’t believe you believe all that nonsense, but you like feeling religious;

  1. It's good to believe in something.com/ Reply - Osama Bin laden believed in something too. Would you care to rethink that?

  2. Without religion we would have no sense of goodness/ Reply- Yes, how it is I haven’t committed murder, rape and genocide yet I have no earthly idea;

  3. Religions do a lot of good/ Reply - No, the don’t. Some individuals in them do because they are good people;

  4. Religion in education is good because it gives students values / Reply - like what, the value of miracles and coming back from the dead?

  5. My religion is the one true religion but I respect all other religions. / Reply - For what, being wrong?

  6. You should never talk about politics or religion. / Reply - What, you’re knocking my hobbies now?

  7. You can’t hear God because you’re not listening. / Reply - Well tell him to speak up.

  8. God believes in this… God believes in that… God wants us to do this… God wants us to do that….com/ Reply - And you know this because of texts from a time when everyone thought the world was flat, the sun went around the earth, the earth was the centre of the universe, and stars were lanterns in the sky, not to mention slaves were bought at market;

  9. Science and religion are just different ways of looking at the same thing. / Reply - Oh yes, like highly qualified surgeons on the one hand, and faith healers on the other.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

David1955 8 Jan 1
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Years ago, I overheard a coworker talking about a soldier who was almost killed in battle from a bullet to the chest. "If the bullet had just been a half inch to the left, it would have killed him! God was looking out for him!" So I asked "soooooo, god steered the bullet just a bit? And what about his buddies who were killed? Did god steer those bullets too? Did he steer them just enough to kill the soldiers?" Then someone popped in with some work business and the subject was changed.

Good for you. Believers hate being confronted by questions like that. The logic disrupts the delusional part of the mind.

And also why did god get him shot in the first place? Sadism? Masochism? Oooh!

@GoldenDoll "it was his time" or "god needed another angel" or "it's part of god's plan" or....

God is like a little kid with a magnifying glass burning ants, and we are the ants

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Here's another one for "everything happens for a reason":

A friend's elderly mother (call her Kate) is determined to live in her own house as long as possible. My friend lives in another state, so her aunt (Kate's sister) checks in with Kate every few days. One day, Kate falls and can't get up. She laid there on the floor of her living room for THREE DAYS! When the aunt discovered her, she was barely alive, dehydrated, and covered in her own filth. The rationalization was that this HAD to happen to convince Kate to move into assisted living. To which I though, gee, wouldn't ONE day have sufficed? Even a HALF day? No, apparently god couldn't have nudged the aunt there for three days. Or better yet, god couldn't have spoken to Kate and TOLD her that she should move to assisted living.

How awful religious people are. That's all.

@ogtirof Yeah! She's a christian, but he couldn't just TALK to her like they all think he does.

@Tecolote Yes! Or the one survivor of a plane crash who was "saved" by god while he decided everyone else's time had come, and they needed a terrifying end. And, remarkably, all the ones chosen to die that day were all conveniently on the plane. How does free will make that possible? It all makes NO SENSE!

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"The desire in most people to belong is greater than the desire to understand. Hence, the popularity of religions and cults and the lack of the role of reason in human affairs." Thomas Szasz

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I hate the "everything happens for a reason" bullshit. I've had some really crappy stuff happen in my life, and just because I'm OK now doesn't mean that all the crap HAD to happen. In fact, I'm pretty sure that if I could go back in time and change a couple of key turning-point decisions, my life would be significantly better.

It's all part of God's plan they like to say. So, God's plan is to have terrible things happen to undeserving people. (Should have added that to my list). Lovely. Can we have a universe without a God, please? Oh wait, we've already got one.

I can sooooo relate to that statement. You've made me recall" what doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger"

@David1955 - as our great Stephen Fry says "when a religious person asks me how I can't believe in god when I look at a rainbow, I ask them how they can believe in god when they visit a children's cancer ward".

It's specially mean or cruel to say something like that to someone who lost a loved one like a child for example. It just makes it worst

@IndySent YES!!!!!!!!

@GoldenDoll @IndySent. Well we must remember that God believes in free will, and can't interfere, except when he does. We pray to him for his mercy and guidance, but we mustn't forget that we have free will, so we can't expect God to solve our problems, but when he does, or we think that he does, we must praise him, and not ask why some prayers are answered and others not. Nor should we forget that everything wonderful in the world is due to God and everything bad is not due to him....because, yes, you have it, we have free will. ... And so goes religious logic, and I use the term loosely. Praying to God is like a cosmic lottery; you probably won't win, but, oh well, you just might. Children of rich white families, like the Bush family in the US, are winners; terminally ill children in cancer wards apparently are not. The reality of the bleakness of the universe we live in, I can understand. We can strive to make it better. But an absurd God of religion, whose erratic favours we must pray for, I cannot.

@Traveling4ever - well of course it is, and noone is suggesting you should. What a horrific thing to think! This post is about patronising things religiots say, and Stephen Fry's response stops them in their tracks, and hopefully makes them think.

@Nemosson I agree. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is true to a point... challenging situation are how we develop healthy coping mechanisms. But... it's also where we develop UNhealthy coping mechanisms. And besides, there are plenty of crappy life situations that just don't have a silver lining. Some things just suck. That whole phrase reminds me of "god is testing me..."

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Overheard someone in the office talking about the twin towers coming down and that famous intersection of I-beams that made a cross. Clearly that was a sign from god. Sooooo inspirational (I'm rolling my eyes.) A miracle. So I said, "you know what would have impressed me? If an invisible giant hand had caught the plane before it hit the building and lowered it gently to the ground." That whole building was built with I-beams meeting at right angles. It's almost impossible for there to have NOT been something like that in the rubble.

Heck yeah!!

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I read through all the comments and I'm surprised nobody mentioned this one: "But aren't you afraid of Hell?"

Yes, almost as much as I'm afraid of becoming collateral damage in the war between unicorn-riding leprechauns and snow-breathing dragons.

Right now I am more worried about the war between conservative christians and free thinking Americans that is on the horizon, " those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent change inevitable" John Kennedy.

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"Why do you hate god so much? I'm going to pray for you."

Ugghhhh. Either combined or said individually, these two make me want to fork-stab an eyeball.

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One I used to get extremely regularly from Evangelist next door neighbour was, "If only you'd just open up your heart and let Jesus in."
My usual response was either, "Show me the scar from opening up YOUR heart first please," or, "What, open up my heart, do I look like a Cardio-Thoracic Surgeon?"

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No other gods before me as the first commandment... Does that mean there are other gods? A jealous god not the only one. Most gods get low-balled later into angels or myths(not that all deities aren't fiction that probably seemed like a good idea at the time). That is kind of patronizing. It is selfish and gives nothing, takes all even if if the book cited says the opposite. Jesus is good... He pulled an unwilling woman out of his rib and fucked her in front of Mary mandeline and he went into more detail about hell. Allah is good, well apparently doesn't have a gender but separates the sexes? God is good? No. Just no. Thor is good (well I don't see any ice-giants but there sure is some big hail), Mother nature isn't even balanced. Martian Luther didn't believe in the catholic church so he made his own, that is one of the ones where stepping on a cross doesn't matter. Also Hebrews weren't allowed to be carpenters. And if you're non Caucasian today? There were African leaders in US going way back and Jesus would be Arab or African.
Now my family works from stuff like Chivalry, being good, accepting anyone, charity I'm not sure if any of those are to do with Christianity but I love my parents. I'll let go of the secret that I put my faith in people and what they can do at best, myself at worst.

You been snortin dragon dust er what??

@Nemosson Nope. Too much reading, anime and news.

No offense intended. As i was trying to wrap my head around your statement ,admittedly over my head, just poking fun at your name(dragondust) which I actually think is cool. P.s thanks for helping me understand what tagging is all about. This social media stuff is all new to me.....no kiddn!

@Nemosson Nah its fine. Dragon Dust if a reference to my second book A tricksters Clock the second book in my Dreams and Dragons series. Totally unpublished, need some work 😛.

@DragonDust oh cool, that's great. Hope it achieves publishing.

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Saying that everything happens for a reason does warrant elevating unknown causes to a mystical status...

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In addition to the ones you mentioned, here is the airtight argument my mom keeps giving me: "But what if you're wrong?"

I suggest you play Richard Dawkins' famous answer to your Mom. As Carly Simon might sing, "Nobody does it better..." ????

But Mom, what about all the those other gods you don't believe in? You'd better get started -- it's going to take you a while to be safe and cover them all.

I tell my born again brother I will deal with the consequences when I die, but if my choices come down to spending eternity with people like Sagan, Dawkins or spending eternity with hypocritical christians I'll take hell every time.

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If you talk to God you are praying. If God talks to you your are insane.

Evan Baxter, the weirdo with a beard, lol.

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Very nice. I shall be using some of these on my travels.

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Okay this is some good stuff. T- shirts...BRILLIANT!!

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Happy New Year.

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I believe in Disney animated films then I do in god. And if you believe science and religion are just different ways of looking at the same thing then I want what your smoking. What your suggesting is that the superstitions of the bronze age is equal to today's science. You are so off base here. I think you need to spend more time in a chuch and less time on this site.

I don't see where she said that. Even if she did staying on the site would be better

@btroje I need to apologies. My pc didn't loan the top line she wrote. I thought the 10 list were her views

@steve148 that makes sense. I was worried about you for a minute there

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We were made in his image... lol

Yeah and look how fragile we are, we are so poorly built as an entity.

By the way I don't believe anything haha neither religious doctrine nor evolution theory

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Some people have a great need to feel wanted, needed and to belong. Those people follow their "God". It is strange to me that people need to feel that they belong to a religion. Why follow something if it can not be proven?

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Love it! Where can i buy the T-shirt?

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Darn right!! That's funny as hell saying god needs to speak the fuck up, LMAO ????

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  1. And the "good" book describes how to get slaves and trick them into staying slaves after the 7 year mark. Do you believe in the instruction manual for slavery?
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