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‘how far will Trump be allowed to go before leaders of the western democracies finally draw the line? How long until they recognise him as an antagonist, not an ally, contemptuous of their countries’ values and interests – and act accordingly? Germany’s Angela Merkel tried firmness. May tried flattery. The EU has tried fulmination and retaliatory trade tariffs. Others, wishfully, dismiss Trumpism as an aberration, not a strategic shift. But nothing stops him as he rampages on, malignly flattening all in his path.

It is plain what a US president should be talking to Putin about: Russia’s illegal occupation of Crimea, its cyber attacks, information warfare and election meddling – in the latest development, 12 Russian intelligence officials were indicted for hacking emails during the 2016 election campaign. Then there are the chemical weapons atrocities in Syria and Salisbury, Russia’s treaty-busting nuclear build-up and its sanctions-busting in North Korea. But topping Trump’s personal agenda, it seems, is something entirely different, presaging a whole new world of misery: Iran.

...US diplomats have not worked in Tehran for almost 40 years. American politicians, businesses and media have scant knowledge of the country. It has been far too easy, in such a vacuum, for its enemies, notably the paranoid Sunni Arab dictatorships of the Gulf, to unfairly portray Iran as pariah and international bogeyman.

For John Bolton, Trump’s veteran national security adviser, and others of his ilk, Iran is unfinished business, a part of George W Bush’s infamous “axis of evil”. Saddam Hussein’s Iraq was bloodily subjugated; Kim Jong-un’s North Korea is being brought to heel, too, or so they believe. That’s two down and one to go. Eager for a clean sweep, Bush’s more incompetent heir is taking his accelerating campaign against Iran to Putin’s door. There is very little Trump would not do to win Moscow’s support for his coming offensive.’

[theguardian.com]

moNOtheist 7 July 15
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Get used to it. Pretty soon you'll be begging him just like he said. "President Trump! Please stop winning! We're so, so tired of whining!

Irony, right?

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The other leaders of western democracies will tolerate him as long as they support US invasions of other countries I suspect. I have often wondered why Europe tolerates wars that create refugees.

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The only thing that will stop Trump is when the oligarcy that has bought into our government sees that this shit just is not going to work and there has to be a change of plans. At that point they will figure out a way for his exit.

Not so much "bought into" this government as just plain bought. Otherwise, you're on the money.

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Iran has been on the agenda since 9/11 because the Zionists want them taken out and the Banksters want them taken out. Iran is surrounded by nuclear powers like Israel, India, Pakistan, Russia and China and is a geopolitical hub. One stupid move by one of the many stupid players in this power game and we will be seeing mushroom clouds the likes of which have not been seen since Hiroshima.

A complex geopolitical situation, to be sure, but I don't share your pessimism about the use of nuclear devices, even with The Donald bellowing like a proverbial bull in the China shop.

@moNOtheist I'm usually the optimist and the use of nukes is unthinkable I agree but at the same time there is a critical mass of zealots and extremists that just needs a spark to set off a tragic chain reaction.

@Surfpirate Sadly, you're absolutely right in that assessment.

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No he is more interested in if AND WHEN HE CRASHES, WILL RUSSIA TAKE HIM IN!

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