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So fellow unbelievers...what do you think about Astrology? Also a load of nonsense?

antman 7 July 22
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I think so but a large portion of important women in my life have been Scorpios...

antman Level 7 July 22, 2018

Just coincidence.

@JohnDublin I was just realizing I don’t know. Will have to ask.

@JohnDublin, @Quazi my mom, my wife, and most of my girlfriends....all scorpios...

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If you’re asking about the science, the science is in. There is not a single shred of evidence that human lives are affected or directed by the movement of the stars and constellations. When measured the possibility that they could have any influece at all is laughable. The distances are literally astronomical.

Humans see our environment in patterns. It is one of the things we are best at. We can see pictures and patterns in the pure random static of a TV screen. Structured semi random behaviors like Astrology, Tarot, and I Ching can help us put those random/patterns together and make sense of them. They are useful on the same way the Rorschach Test and the Meyers-Briggs test are useful. But the magic doesn’t come from the stars or the cards or the test. The magic comes from inside. The magic comes from us.

JTony Level 3 July 22, 2018

@KissedbySun I’d still say that there is no evidence that the sun’s position in the sky at the time of birth has any affect or relation to one’s personality or future events. There’s not a lick of evidence that shows that it or any other celestial body is in any way a source for predicting or determining who we are or will become.

@KissedbySun well that I can wholeheartedly agree with. The sun and stars are the source of all things after all. Btw, I really like your name!

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Nonsense. In fact the signs used are based on configuration of the universe 2000+ years ago and have shifted so if you were born in what is called the Gemini sign you were actually born in the Cancer sign. I think I am correct in the shift direction haven't done much research on it.

This is correct, due to precession. The Earth remains tilted to the plain of the solar system the same amount, but actually spins around like wobbling top over time. In the future, the North Start will no longer be the North Star, replaced by whatever star the north pole points to at a given era, if any. I may have the number wrong, but I believe it takes 26,000 year to complete a wobble. So yes, the original constellations backing the Zodiac are all out of sync.

@godef Thank you for the replies. My knowledge has been increased and I like that.

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I used to like this girl before. And she told me we can never date because our zodiac signs are not a match. I thought she was joking but then I realized she was serious and she really believed this thing. We're really good friends now but we don't live close by anymore. The last time I saw her she was telling me about her BF and she is like "He is also Taurus, like you". And I started laughing "So you can date him but not me, life's not fair"... So my point is - yes astrology is bullshit

Sounds like you escaped a future crazy to me. Lucky man!!

@antman Haha she is pretty reasonable in general but when she talks about astrology my head starts hurting haha!

I get shunned when I've said that Im a Scorpio. According to legend we are hugely mean, dangerous, and like screwing a lot? I'd say I'm the meanest nice person ya ever wanna meet. And the most loyal. Like a Cocker Spaniel. But I am capable of being your best soldier in battle for a trusted friend. Don't think that has anything to do with astrology, but everything to do with what I think important. shrug

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I don't believe in it but we Virgos tend to be skeptical.

This made me laugh!!

@antman Me, too!

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Yup...load of nonsense! What DOES interest me is the variety of ''constellations'' humans have constructed over time. If you've ever seen the night sky in a place like Mongolia or the Masai Mara, Patagonia, etc....you know how many gazillions stars you see. The fact that people actually studied those star patterns and invented meaningful FIGURES up there is gobsmacking!

When I think back to the ancient Greeks and romans and the Chinese. What they did with limited tools to fathom things out was amazing.

@antman ESPECIALLY considering that constellations ''move'' and so it would take a LONG time and much dedication to track them...invent a ''star map'' and decide what it represented. How about the ancient people of the south seas...who could navigate without a compass, simply by following stars? WOW. (Wonder how many died, following the "wrong" stars?)

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Astrology was the mother of astronomy. That said, astrology is utter nonsense, but I owe the folks who thought stars and planets, and the moon and sun had some bearing on the lives of people a debt of gratitude. Why? Because of their pursuit of utter nonsense, a science was born from which answers have flowed and continue to do so.

@CoastRiderBill -- that is what I said. They made highly accurate observations, the observational astronomy. The difference came in the motivation for making those observations. Astrology was the mother of astronomy.

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Yeah, but it's fun.

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Yes nonsense. Hocus pocus just like horoscopes

Well, it IS horoscopes. They mean the same thing.

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I have never followed astrology. I don't even know all of the signs of all of my kids.

Lol me too

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Yes, I believe it to be just nonsense.

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Ranks right up there with chicken guts and tea leaves.

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same I think of insect men.

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My neighbor informed me three years ago that I am a Scorpio. She's weirdly involved with astrology. I was curious about what that meant and read stuff online to find out. My conclusion: meh.

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Not a fan or a believer. If haven't before, check out Numerology or the Jewish Cabala.

t1nick Level 8 July 22, 2018
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Have you ever answered questions about what your thought of this or that? And then told you are this type of person. It is found in some businesses and governments. It is an attempt by management to determine the best mix of people. It can be harmless or devastating. I call this 'pigeon-holing'; and attempt to put round pegs in square holes. Most of the time it will fit, but it never fits everyone. Astrological traits are a similar attempt to attribute qualities to people. Modern astrology is wrong anyway -- it uses fixed dates, rather than the actual constellations and there are 13, not 12 signs.

xyz123 Level 7 July 22, 2018
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Have you ever answered questions about what your thought of this or that? And then told you are this type of person. It is found in some businesses and governments. It is an attempt by management to determine the best mix of people. It can be harmless or devastating. I call this 'pigeon-holing'; and attempt to put round pegs in square holes. Most of the time it will fit, but it never fits everyone. Astrological traits are a similar attempt to attribute qualities to people. Modern astrology is wrong anyway -- it uses fixed dates, rather than the actual constellations and there are 13, not 12 signs. It has as much value as one wishes to place in it -- though I think flipping a coin is more reasonable.

xyz123 Level 7 July 22, 2018
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unadulterated bollox along with tarot readings tea leaves and crystals to name but a few

weeman Level 7 July 22, 2018
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Yes along with alchemy, creationism, hydroplate. Etc.

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I believe it is a crock of bovine excrement.

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Yup, absolutely.

godef Level 7 July 22, 2018
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As an amateur astronomer, knowing the signs of the zodiac, as they pertain to the constellations and the precession of the equinoxes is clearly important, but that is all I pay attention to. Believers in astrology are not too different from religious adherents, or those who believe in fortune telling, healing magnets, conspiracy theories, homeopathic treatments, anti-vaxers and anti-GMO'ers.

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Yes, nasty nonsense.

However, taking a clean sheet of paper approach, I could entertain the notion that there might be some trends or patterns as to the time of year that you are born and some personal traits. It could be anything from when a person's parents chose to conceive (eg: after a nice Christmas bonus) to whether you had to begin the school year as young or old for your grade, etc. So, this doesn't yield anything as satisfying and granular as "you will have thus-and-such experience today", but it would be interesting to see some reputable study on this.

kmaz Level 7 July 22, 2018
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Load of bollocks.

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Yes it is BS.

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