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Finally!!! The Funeral Industry is starting to take a major hit, and so is organized religion.
We're changing the way we handle our death rituals.

I'm putting this in the "General" category because we're all going to die.

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KKGator 9 July 29
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I told my kids to make a huge bonfire in the backyard and throw my body in it plus throw a keg party! Have fun and no crying!

That's reasonable. The buzzards can have me.

@EdEarl I don't want my kids to go broke just because of the funeral home charging them all this money because of my death! That's just sad how they use people's emotions to charge so much money!

@MichelleGar1 Yes they do.

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I wanted to go down the aisle in my (brown wheelie bin)( that I paid for) let everyone have a sing song amd mourn or not as they please - whatever they want - a great knees-up or a communal sadness, poems - whatever - I won't be thereso let them all eat drink and be merry for I will have died.

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i know of a ritual whereby the body is just shrouded & a tree seed grown right on top of it - very economic! back to nature 🙂

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Funerals are such a racket. We, as a society, have been brainwashed into believing that we need the funeral home and the somber ceremonies and the fancy casket and it adds up to $10,000+ to put a body in the ground. The reason we have "living rooms" in our homes was thanks to a rebranding by funeral homes (or funeral parlors, as they were called then), as a push was made to eliminate the practice of people having the body laid out in the home (in the parlor). And here's the thing: it was way more convenient for everyone when the body remained in the home. It was easier for people to visit. Visitors would bring food for the family. There weren't long lines of people waiting to awkwardly say "sorry for your loss" because it spanned a couple of days. It cost nothing. And we could all do this again if we were so inclined, but nobody thinks to do it. There are less costly caskets, too, that are every bit as lovely, if you go through other sources. (I don't want to advertise for anyone here, but if you're interested in where to buy a casket for ~$2,200 please send me a private message and I'll send you the link.) When my father passes away, I'm hoping to honor all of his wishes (burial, funeral Mass, etc.), but I'm intent on bypassing the funeral home for calling hours and just have it at the homestead. The funeral home will have to be involved in the embalming and the transportation of the body, which I'm sure will still be highway robbery (heh, that was an unintended pun, but I'm keeping it), but I'm not planning on paying for a space for calling hours and I'm not giving them a dime for the casket (because, seriously, they charge triple for a wooden casket). When it's my time, I want to be cremated. No funeral. No calling hours / wake. No urn (just a nice mayonnaise jar). Nothing extra beyond what's required by law. If I could, I'd have my remains burned in a public dumpster and hauled away by the garbage truck and nobody would have to pay anything at all.

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I’ve got my cremation bought and paid for. Originally told my daughter to burn me and flush me which didn’t go over well. Now she doesn’t have to worry about it.

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I'm curious what happens to the water/fluid in "water cremations". ?

Qualia Level 8 July 29, 2018

If it's not treated as "hazardous waste", you can reasonably assume it's going right into the local sewage systems.
You know, because they never fucking think these things through.

@KKGator well not sure if serious, because yeah, they don't always think them through. LOL

@Qualia I'm totally serious.

@KKGator ah then we agree.

@PalacinkyPDX Good to know.

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I belong to the cremation family. Yes that is correct not the creation family, The Cremation family. So far my father and mother have been cremated as well as my older sister. My two dogs and cat have been cremated. It's just what we do.

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I am suprised you can bury someone in the yard... I thought the rules around land usage would make this illegal at least in the u.s. Surprised they didn't mention composting method.

There are rules for home burial which the article didn't cover.
Anyone considering it must check to see what their local regulations
regarding such things are.
This is yet another way the funeral industry gained power within communities. They influenced laws surrounding how people could
bury their deceased. The funeral industry has lobbyists, too.

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Yep, it's cremation for me; spread my ash o'er mountain and sea. Please don't toss my bone bag in a box, I'd much rather spread over water and rocks. Throw me into the currents, and along dusty trails to mingle with dust and unfurled sails. And finally when the last little bit of me exits the urn, put a smile on your face and say, "He had a good turn."

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I want a natural burial.
[naturalburialassoc.ca]

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And, that is a highly positive development. . I have already acted to ensure that my body will be cremated, that there will be no burial, and that there will be no service of any kind.

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As a former Funeral Director I find the article misleading in several ways. Back in the early eighties the Funeral Home I worked at was at fifty percent and by the late nineties when I was over the whole thing we were in the eighty percent area. So cremation is not new or causing funeral homes to lose money. The home funeral was big when I started in the the business in the early seventies and backyard funerals were growing. Memorial services were common and as we scatter across the globe will be more common. I like the concept of Green burial but it still takes up land. As for the hydrolysis process it will run up against the cities with barely adequate sewer services and public dislike of ecky stuff going into the sewer. And the bones that is left will not be ash, that only happens after cremation. The process leaves a larger volume of bone than cremation which will entail larger urns, at a greater charge to the consumer. I got out of the profession when it became a business, "What do you mean you left them with half the insurance policy, surely you could have tacked on some more flowers or cars!"

BillF Level 7 July 29, 2018

The "profession" has always been a business.
My knowledge of it came in the late 60s, and into the 70s.
I watched several funeral homes grow from small family-operated,
community-based businesses, into corporations with major profit margins.
I've also seen stories of corruption and violations of trust.
It's always been a business.

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Well, sadly, this post is making me think about my own mortality, which, I'm sorry, but fucking sucks! LOL! That said, I had already decided I would be cremated and I think I agree with bypassing the whole display ritual and for me it would go without saying there would be NO religious services what so EVER.

I believe I'll stop short of being pressed into a vinyl record. A CD maybe. LOL! This was interesting, thanks for sharing.

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just yesterday I attended a memorial service for a man who was the father of a very best friend of mine. he had been cremated...2 hrs of visitation followed by a short service... death just aint what it used to be.

I, for one, am VERY glad for that.
My mother's husband (not my father) was an undertaker. I learned more about the business than I EVER would have otherwise.
I grew up knowing how people are taken advantage of when they are at their most vulnerable. Not just by the funeral industry, but by religion, as well. Churches and other "houses of worship" have their own rituals and traditions surrounding death, and they cost money, too. Usually, it's money people don't have, but come up with anyway. Even when it puts them into debt.
It's really quite disgusting how the funeral industry and religion use people's emotions to enrich themselves.

@KKGator just like any other capitalization of tradition. how many go into debt just to meet expectations at xmas or anniversaries. Capitalism has no heart. Get their cash when there dying, down, or dim- whitted.... disgusting.

@Davevisi considering how much I like coffee I think that would be perfect! sorry to hear about your friend though. I really wonder about what the law says. is a deceased person required to go to the funeral home seems like a strange thing to require of someone who's died. I'm not trying to be funny. I wonder if there could be a business for something like alternative burial or something.

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Indeed we are

weeman Level 7 July 29, 2018
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