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Sigh. Dating befuddles me. So do relationships. I, especially am flummoxed by the concept of "levels" - levels of class, levels of attractiveness, etc. I had one guy comment about shooting above his level and now he is returning back down to his level. I had my ex tell me I wasn't AT his level (I was assuming he was talking about looks). And I am always involuntarily judging what guy I can interact with based on some arbitrary level I have determined that I am at. Although, I only do that with those to whom I have decided are on a level above me. Irrational, yes. Stupid, definitely. Hard mindset to overcome, yup. I would hate to have some stupid worry about "levels" keep someone from, at least, attempting a conversation with me, although, hypocritically, I hesitate to even see myself with some adonis with a good sense of humor, and a welcoming personality. Maybe that's what keeps me being attracted to assholes (birds of a feather, you know). Currently, dating a non-asshole, and experiencing that whole "gee, maybe he should be with a girl that is not a flaming fuck-head."

Yeah. I had 4 of those coffees with the sugar and the cream... why do you ask?

onlyduh 7 July 30
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I kinda feel like to be good at dating you kinda have to be a salesperson. I don't care for salespeople very much.

Thats my 2c

arnies Level 7 July 31, 2018
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One word....... RELAX.

@onlyduh Not good, don't have a heart attack.

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I've read that couples tend to have more successful relationships when they are similar in attractiveness.

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You need a better class of friend!

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step away from the sugar...

Lukian Level 8 July 30, 2018

@onlyduh I thought you would never ask (are you on your knees?)

@onlyduh i’m reconsidering

@onlyduh I have a right to a decent proposal meaning one knee on the floor.... sniff sniff.

@onlyduh ah dang... come over here so that we can make out like old times (last week) and make up again... That will be the rocky road of our union...

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The idea of levels is juvenile. "She's an 8," teen boys say, objectifying girls.

Objectification means treating a person as a sexual object without regard to their personality or dignity.

People are unique individuals.

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Are you an introvert? As a outgoing, born optimist, I enjoy meeting people.

Even if a man is not as advertised (old photos again), I still have fun engaging people in conversation over a meal. I learn from everyone I meet.

Unless he's a conversational dud. One guy droned on-and-on about fishing and didn't ask a single question. I barely made it to the door with the glaze forming over my eyes.

Some men are so quiet and tongue-tied, getting an answer out of them is like pulling teeth.

"It's your turn to start a new conversational topic," I suggested. Long silence. "I can't think of anything to say," he replied. Not my cup of tea.

Ha, me years ago. When was first with my wife, she asked "what are you feeling?" My answer was " I'm fine" It took her many years of sticking with me to make me a thinking, feeling human being and I thank her for it every day.

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You're still on a roll. For me it isn't about anything but chemistry. It is there or it isn't. If it is there, none of that other shit matters. If it isn't there, why would you bother.

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happy to hear you're dating. Why so down on yourself? Aren't you trying to be a better person?

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What do these guys say to you on a third date? "Congratulations. Welcome to level twelve" ? Yeah, that doesn't sound right.

@onlyduh , You should date Mario. He's a plumber too!

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Sounds kind of juvenile to me. Sort of a way to keep people at bay, to not have to risk vulnerability. This way you'll only find people who are "safe" to be with -- by safe, meaning someone you don't have to risk your heart and soul to.

@onlyduh @Compassion8doubt I mean, the GUY sounds immature. I felt you were questioning it; that's not immature to me.

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Dating is difficult. It's about survival of the species. People are fragile, including men. Some are afraid-frozen into inactivity by fear of rejection. People are complex, and others try to find ulterior motives and hidden agendas. If pheromones and hormones affect our psyche and encourage us to mate; otherwise, we might never do it. When we advertise our desire for love, we should think of how we affect potential mates, what attracts and what rejects. It seems you called yourself a flaming fuck-head; if so, stop. If you are (I doubt it), don't be. If you aren't, don't say so. Dating should be fun. In the past, I've been luckiest in love when I'm relaxed and expecting nothing; then surprise a date is fun. Of course, it is difficult to be patient.

EdEarl Level 8 July 30, 2018

@onlyduh It doesn't matter why someone leaves a relationship, levels or troubles; shit happens. You are a smart woman artist, and no doubt have many things you want in a mate. Will you find one on every corner, or are they rare.

My prescription: Play the game with my own style, and if I never find another mate, it's fate. I demanded too much.

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Wow, I never thought about "levels" - I just tend to mingle with whoever I get along with.
The sky's the limit !

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Sometimes, coffee is all we've got.

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Maybe it's not so much "levels" as level. Maybe, when someone uses that term they mean it as an indicator of incompatibility that has nothing to do with above or below, but maybe just different, and different enough that they feel the relationship won't work. Or, maybe it's just bullshit and they're looking for an out and won't be straight with their partner. =]

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OH, you are so funny. Dating is difficult if not downright impossible. Me - I am the queen of being geographically undesirable as if Harrisburg, PA was only reached by going through 100 miles of desert or possibly mud holes. I don't understand levels or even what that would mean but it probably means something different to everyone. I honestly try not to overrate myself but I'm not chopped liver either...........so who knows. Hey don't complain too much as least you are dating.

I don't do levels, but I do draw the line at driving through West Virgina. We could meet in Hershey if you wanted... 🙂

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