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Is it odd to occasionally look up and wonder... Is any of this real? Can this shitstorm that people call life possibly be real? And if it is, what of Heaven and Hell that people so ardently cling to?

You know how I know that Heaven and Hell, and therefore God and the Devil don't exist?

Well, I don't believe that anything can be worse than the earth we currently live on. And if nothing can be worse than Earth, how can some vague concept of a plane of pure evil possibly be worse? And if Hell doesn't exist, neither does Heaven, and neither do God or Satan.

How is it that anything could be worse than this bundle of neuroses; depression, anxiety, Asperger's, Bipolar that I'm living with now?

When we die, and if we reincarnate, we'll be put right back into this shitstorm. And to me, that's worse than Hell could ever be, the idea that we constantly return to what people erroneously call life on this rapidly dying ball.

Just my 10 cents

ErichZannIII 7 Aug 2
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This often helps me get through some of those tougher moments in life, when there doesn’t seem to be an upside:

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There was an episode of the Twilight Zone that scared the hell out of me when I was a kid. The plot of the episode was this guy goes through his life, a rough life of growing up, committing crimes and getting caught. Finally, he gets arrested for a murder and sentenced to death. Near the end of the movie, he is in the electric chair, maintaining his innocence. They throw the switch and.... His life starts over, exactly the same. The idea of life being being a loop that keeps repeating itself just scared the shit out of me! I don’t have half the issues you do, but I have told people many times that I consider the ups and downs of life to be the only heaven and hell there is.

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I will give you your 10 cents back.

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Is this post real?

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As a solipsist, I continually wonder why there aren't more solipsists.

@ErichZannIII

It means singing solo while lipsinking right?

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I think it’s happening faster and faster ..humanity is coming to realize, ‘this is all you get.’ What’s driven ‘us’ to become the top of the biological heap is not likely what it takes to make us content. The ignorant and arrogant among us continue to breed as though the planet’s hurting for humans … as those content to live within their means are robbed of even that by those who ‘enough’ is never enough.

I sometimes wonder if ‘this,’ a collective mind of sorts, isn’t one of few hopes.. We need to know we’re basically ‘all one.’ But about the time we begin to feel that way … along comes something the equivalent of ‘the republican convention’ and the most ignorant among us are harvested for hate.

It’s tremendously ugly times in the USA right now, and though we had help, the ingredients were there. Actually, I’m looking to the outside world, the nations who’ve continued to evolve as best humanity can.. And, I turn to nature, not always that far away, and the deeper you get into it, the more difficult it is to view anyone with enough power or malevolence to destroy it.

PS, don’t worry about coming back

Varn Level 8 Aug 2, 2018
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It's not odd, but it's irrelevant.

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The dead are always with us but they are just in another form. No, I do not believe they are in heaven or hell and I do not believe they reincarnated.

Circle of life. The living pass and become the sustenance for the next generations.

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I have Scitzo-Affective disorder. And there are a lot of symtoms that go along with having that. I do have to take meds, and I do see a shrink, and a therapist.
But rather than letting that get me down, I try to focus on positive things.

I volunteer at a homeless shelter along with quite a few other people.
All of the others there are real friendly, and just want to help people. In my book that is a positive thing.
I try and focus on the fact that there are a lot of others that do wonderful things for others.
And again That is a positive thing.

Don't get me wrong, I do have my bad days when the depression is really bad, but I've learned some tools to help me through that.

I make it a point once or twice a week of posting a vid that has people helping people, or people helping animals.
Those kind of things are very uplifting to me.

I do agree there is a lot of shit out there, and some horrible people. But I'd rather focus on the ones that are not.

I’ve begun to wonder if those having to work a little harder ..don’t come away with a little more.

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Sometimes Hell, sometimes Heaven. I think it's what we make of it. You can focus on what's wrong with your life, or you can focus on what's right with your life; therein lies the difference for me. If life is suffering, then embrace the suffering.

Follow your bliss-ters, like Joseph Campbell said.

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If you can't imagine a situation worse than on Earth today I suggest looking back a few hundred years when humans had in worse in nearly every way possible.
If you are having psychological problems try to find help. You are not alone and you don't have deal with it alone. I know it is not easy to ask for help and in some situations it can feel like the hardest thing in the world but it is worth it. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, metaphorically speaking, of course.

Dietl Level 7 Aug 2, 2018

People always had psychological problems. The difference is that nowadays it is recognized as such and you don't get thrown in a dungeon for acting weird. If your biggest problem is unfulfillment, you don't have it quite so bad, I would argue. Just find something to do and be disciplined about it.

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Here's a potential antidote to the problem:

Good points, I don't know of any fully functional families. Confront your problems with grace that promotes more happiness and less suffering. Take the red pill when needed for facing reality.

Good points, I don't know of any fully functional families. Confront your problems with grace that promotes more happiness and less suffering. Take the red pill when needed for facing reality.

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I never wonder if it's "real". I know it is.

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