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My roommate is a devout christian, who happens to be gay. I'm fine with this, except for the fact that it confuses me greatly. How can a person believe in and worship a god that demands you be stoned to death because he decided to "make" you "wrong"? I've read the bible, four versions to be exact, they all say to stone homosexuals to death. I asked him once about how he can worship a god that wants him dead, but he got very angry when I did so. I don't talk about religion around him at all anymore as a result of this interaction. This causes me to frequently revisit the question of: How do gay Christians deal with this glaring issue? I'm genuinely interested in this and any perspective would be nice. I could continue to try to imagine how this issue could be reconciled, but I find my ruminations on the subject unsatisfactory. I'm just trying to understand him better so I don't offend him in the future. Thanks in advance for the responses!

jayneonacobb 7 Jan 18
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I was taught that Christ came to replace the old law. His sacrifice was to be enough to override everything up to that point. It's not mentioned by jesus, so it's not addressed at all by many churches. The old testament is seen as before Christ and so not important. However, if you actually read the words from Jesus himself (just go with me here), he says he did not come to destroy the law but to uphold it. I guess they ignore that part too. The bible contradicts itself so many times and people who see it as infallible amaze me. I am a fully recovered ex-christian. Thank you, thank you. It just astounds me that I seem to be the only person who saw through it all. By the way, my churches saw homosexuality as the devil's temptation to draw us away from god and to hell. Every church is different.

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I believe he's Roman Catholic. To answer that question.

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I saw a documentary about the mob and all members of the mob had to believe in god and most of them were Catholics. They kill, they steal, the break every commandment. They all believe in god. Go figure.

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The Unitarian Universalist Church is accepting of the LGBTQ community. Do you know which church he attends?

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Wow, thanks for all the comments and insight. I can see how he could just cherry pick. I've read the bible, basically everyone goes to hell no matter what. Lol.

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I spent over fifteen years in various forms of Reparative Therapy, and I can tell you, the mind of the gay Christian is a mess. We're taught from a young age that God is loves us, so much so that he killed his son because we could never be good enough for him. He loves us so much that he wants to send us to hell and torture us forever and ever and ever... amen!

So we can't leave God because he will for sure send us to hell, but we can't quit being gay because... well... it's just not possible. So we have to find ways to make "us" okay in the eyes of God, spurred on by his torturous, murderous children.

Logic can't resolve that struggle. It's a deep emotional misalignment that tortures your roommate though he don't dare admit that... again, that would piss God off.

Have you noticed, however, that in the Old Testament, God has no problem with woman on woman sex. Showing once and for all that God is a man.

On the upside, though. We have no records of any Jewish "criminal" being stoned for being gay, so there's that. But when my friends insist that it meant something else, I tell them it didn't. That is the Bible's stance.

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Imagine what goes on inside their head everyday.

Iffy Level 5 Jan 18, 2018
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An increasingly common tactic this last decade is to claim that the parts of the Old Testament that condemned homosexuality did so in the context of Idolatry. The claim is that, in those days, homosexuality was practiced as worship to other gods, and that the real crime was idolatry instead of homosexuality. So the logic becomes "As long as you're practicing homosexuality without worshipping other gods, you're ok"

(I realize there are lots of problems with this method of interpretation concerning what the Bible says. I'm just explaining how a lot of Christians are trying to be ok with homosexuality despite what they read in the Bible).

A lot of Christians simply aren't that concerned with the parts of the Bible that they don't agree with because there is always somebody who will provide an explanation of why that part doesn't really mean what it says or why it no longer applies to them.

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fuck knows you got me. as for gay marriage if I was gay id make a point of not being just to piss the religious of more. there only allowing gay marriage because there losing there grip on people to believe and of course pay them.

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Personally, I feel that it's just more of the cognitive dissonance that believers engage in. I know gay believers, too, and I have never been able to figure out how they are able to make such a reconciliation. It truly is a mystery to me.

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