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STRANGE DALLAS SHOOTING

The Dallas shooting of Botham Jean by officer Amber Guyger has to be the most screwed up thing I have ever heard of. Guyger claims the apartment door was ajar and she entered thinking she had a burglar in her own apartment. The lights were off but she saw Jean moving toward her and she started giving verbal commands which he ignored. She then fired her weapon twice and hit Jean once, killing him. Jean had no weapons. What is not clear in this report is why was she on the 4th floor when her apartment in on the 3rd floor? The report did say that she had parked on the 4th floor so I suppose she forgot this and simply entered the residence area at the 4th floor level.

The story gets worse when we hear of people who recall Guyger pounding loudly on the door demanding to be let in. If this is remotely true it would have to mean that the door was locked and not open or ajar. This would also mean that Guyger's electronic key did not work and she suspected somebody was inside. My question is what was wrong with her? What was she taking and how could she possibly make this sort of mistake? How could you possibly defend Amber Guyger? The only defense I can remotely come up with is that she is a cop who has succumed to the addiction of drugs to such an extent that her judgement was greatly impaired.

Any thoughts or insight on this?

DenoPenno 9 Sep 11
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I saw in news this morning that the hallways are brightly lit and there is no reason to believe that Guyger was not able to see signs marking the floor she was on along with also seeing that the number on the apartment door was not her own. ( I saw the pics) It has also been confirmed that a red doormat was present at Jean's door and that Guyger has no doormat at all. What gives?

Attempts of justification of Guyger's actions persist with a changing system of dog whistles and story lines along with her "giving Jean verbal commands" that he failed to follow. They stick with this because the victim is always at fault if they fail to follow a cops "verbal commands."

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Think about it, you have neighbor who lives above you, who sings for his church (loud noise) and who happens to be of a different race. That's all speculation.... The facts are, the door was not what, she was demanding to be let in and a man is dead. Cop or not, drugs or not. Captial Murder is the charge she should face. Period.

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I’d be curious to know where in the building her apartment is in relation to his. Did she just get off the elevator on the wrong floor?was she really tired? were drugs involved? Lots of questions, no answers yet! Let the investigation continue. Extremely sad situation nonetheless.

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The whole thing sounds really wrong.
Already to many different stories.

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It seems nuts.
Another unbelievable horrible thing is that it took several days to arrest her, and it had to be done by a department 30 miles away when she lived next to a Dallas police station.

Racism much?

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hopefully she was just zoned out and made a truly horrific error but as usual we will get the shrieking and idea slinging from all sides she has already been charged with manslaughter with the possibility of more charges being brought i think

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"The only defense I can remotely come up with is that she is a cop who has succumbed to the addiction of drugs to such an extent that her judgment was greatly impaired." Too much of a reach...facts not in evidence. There needs to be an investigation before such judgments are made.

What I offered here is a possible defense that her attorney might use. What else can you say? Maybe that she was insane. She is not only on the wrong floor for her apartment but Jean had a red door mat in front of his door. Did she also have a red doormat? How did it happen that once she enters the darkened room she did not turn on the lights? That is the first thing anyone does and the light switch is always close to the door. Yet, she was able to see a black man in the dark enough to know he was not following her "verbal commands." Something is very wrong here.

@DenoPenno What is "very wrong here" is the speculation that many seem willing to make BEFORE a proper investigation is conducted.

@dahermit OK. I will leave it to you to come up with proper justification. My remarks and reporting of the incident point out that there is none and cannot be none. NOTHING will justify what this cop has done, and nothing will get rid of the racial overtones of any investigation so far. Tell me something that may and you put yourself out on the limb that you seem to think I am on right now. Truth be known, I am not out on a limb. Investigation and arrest are coming too late and the story is still ever changing trying to find this mythical "justification" when there is none at all. Reverse the color of these people immediately and you would see that it is over before it began. Even so, Guyger is trapped. The irony is that she will likely get 10 years and not even serve all of that.

@DenoPenno "I will leave it to you to come up with proper justification" I will wait for a proper investigation and not do any ridiculous and unsupported speculation. Because you cannot come up with any "justification" is more a limit upon your imagination (and jump to conclusion) than it is that there is none under the law.

@dahermit Have it your way. Believe what you like. I'm done. I quit, and I give up. I didn't pull this out of my ass. I read it in various reported news pieces that apparently are following the investigation.

@DenoPenno Sigh...the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

@dahermit Dunning-Kruger Effect? You must mean Donald Trump.

@DenoPenno On that we can agree.

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I certainly agree, it's super messed up. I would also suspect she was on some mind altering substance. Though I suppose she could have simply been exhausted. In either case she wasn't thinking clearly. Hopefully....as far as I know there is not evidence that she did this deliberately.

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Why do you say she was on drugs ? Could it have been a lovers tiff ?

So far there is no evidence that both parties even knew each other. His apartment is on the 4th floor and her apartment would be at the same location on the 3rd floor. For some reason she parked on the 4th floor parking level and then entered the building.

@DenoPenno no reason drugs were involved . She may have been pissed with him having elephant feet

@DenoPenno "No evidence that they knew one another..." How the hell do you know? Until an investigation is done, you are just urinating in the wind. STFU and let the investigation (and those smart enough to do it), do their jobs.

@dahermit Why is this bothering you so much? My words come from the media who is reporting and printing what the investigation is coming up with so far. I hope they are smart enough to do their jobs. They could be getting angry as hell and just pulling it all out of their asses like pissed off people writing on this page.

@DenoPenno Because you are repeating what the media is saying...they often get things wrong.
They are saying what the police are releasing...police do not release the what they have found until the investigation is over and then sometimes it is not released until a Grand Jury is convened. What you can be assured of, is YOU ARE NOT PRIVY TO ALL THE FACTS AT THIS TIME. If you were smarter, you would have figured that out by now.

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The whole thing is baffling to me. Is her actual apartment directly above his? That would be the only plausible explanation for going in that door on a different floor.

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I want readers to be aware that I made no reference to race here. In what I read of the incident I found no evidence that Guyger and Jean even knew each other. This made issues of race a non-issue to me.

What does them knowing each other have to do with whether or not it's racism? A racist doesn't have to know you to behave as a racist.

@redbai The reason I never mentioned race of either party in this tragedy is that the way it unfolded did not make me think it involved racism. It unfolded as extreme confusion on her part. Who knows? Later on we may learn that he made lots of noise that she heard from her apartment and she maybe hated black people. IDK. This is so damned crazy on her part and that's why I thought they might come up with a drug excuse for her actions.

@DenoPenno So you don't belive how it was initially handled was biased? Do you honestly believe if a black policeman had entered a white, Christian womn's apartment and shot her then claimed to be confused they would have put him on paid leave and waited for a different policing agency to attempt to press charges?

That's not the America I live in.

@redbai The handling of it was terrible. Race plays a part in this because the cop is white and some think it gives a "double white priviledge." Many will not admit to the first one. The move today is to dumb us all down in these matters to make it more acceptable. Do I see bias and racism? YES. Rather than approach it in that manner my way of attacking this tragedy is to show it's idiocy.

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