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I just had a mind blowing conversation with my fundamental christian mother. We discussed the bible, evolution, the universe, and other light subjects.

She tearfully admitted that she does not believe the bible to be infallible. She said that it was obviously, "too full of man".

She politely asked me to stop because I was, "crumbling the last foundations of her faith".

I informed her that I wasn't attempting to do that, but that I was glad she was willing to talk about it with me.

I never thought this day would come.

She told me that she thought I was very intelligent and thoughtful and that she admired me.

Up until today, I was only described as wayward and sinful.

Oh, happy day!

Donotbelieve 9 Sep 13
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B-i-b-l-e, basic information before leaving earth

Baseless information perhaps?

basic fantasy brainwashing bullshit before leaving earth

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Hope that it lasts. Keep us posted......no matter which way it goes..

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Know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall set you free. ****

**** One thing JC was right about.
Atheism will eventually win....we have the TRUTH

Reading the Bible will turn you into and atheist.

That's exactly what happened to me. @FlyingEagle1952

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Awesomnesses...

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My family insisted that I follow Catholicism...none of them ever attended Church. My mom lit candles, prayed to the Infant of Prague, but was stalwart in her decision not to attend and often said "If I walked into a Church it would collapse..." I was never a believer in Catholicism. It was boring, scary and the nuns were mean as piss! I often wondered why my mom was such a devout believer but didn't observe her religion. It was many years later that I realized she was ashamed of her own sins. During a discussion I showed her pictures of our solar system, of galaxies and broad sweeps of Universe. She was stunned and said she thought the Sun revolved around the Earth and never dreamed that there was a Universe! Then she asked me about God's relationship to all of this. I explained to her that the Infant of Prague was her personal God. She agreed. Then I explained that there are many gods, made in Humankind's image. "Which is the real one?" She asked. "Reality is a matter of perspective..." I said. One her deathbed she told me she was no longer a believer because her life hadn't gone the way she expected it to and her "God" had broken their agreement. I reminded her of the breadth of the Universe and told her "In an Infinite Universe, all things exist. Even God. Just not in the form she expected."

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Wow...what a moment! Congratulations!

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I think it's awesome that your mother is coming around and acknowledging your thoughtfulness and intelligence.

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We should always remember that kindness that we show to others , speaks volumes. I'm glad that you can sit down with her and openly talk about that with her. We sometimes forget how hard it is to let go of years of indoctrination.

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Mother Theresa said very late in life that she had not felt the presence of God in her life for over 50 years. It's never too late for humanism and reason.

Yes, and that she kept on for the good she KNEW she was giving to the needy. Strong lady to admit it. Lots of flack because of it though.

That evil bitch withheld pain medication from suffering patients because their suffering "brought them closer to God. If there were a hell she would be rotting in it, as far as I am concerned.

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My Mom basically told me that she doesn’t believe it all, but if she didn’t believe some, her world would crumble. At least she admitted to not being completely brainwashed.

@Donotbelieve Ask your Mom if Jesus ever bopped the monkey?

@FlyingEagle1952 That was pretty rude.

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I too have had lengthy conversations with my family members on the subject of my non-beliefs. They always end the same way. They’ll pray for my repentance or I shall burn in the lake of fire. Congratulations on the awakening of your mother. My mother who was ravaged with cancer went to her grave believing God would heal her cancer.

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i'm so sick of the bible bullshit.....BUT there is something going on out there bigger than me.....and it is important to be a good person. I went to IANDS meetings for 10 years, i me a lot of people who died and came back. Consciousness is something else. I had an experience when my mother died in 1994. It changed my life forever, but I WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GOD IN THE BIBLE......and or Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha.....they will take your money.

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Thats amazing to be able to have that conversation with your mom!

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My 87 year old mom lives by, and will die peacefully in her faith. Of her five children two of us are atheists. I'm disturbed that kids are indoctrinated like I was before they have a chance to decide. OTOH my brother and I did decide and are doing great in our freedom to explore, but I digress. Confronted with the reality that her beliefs taught her to believe that we were going to hell, rather than accept that horrific nonsense her beliefs have evolved in such a way that she sees the grace of God as being sufficient for all of us. Too bad more Christians aren't like our moms. Namaste!

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Wanna talk about a miracle this sounds like it may qualify, lol

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Wow. Just... wow.

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I sincerely hope this is a break through in what sounds like previously strained relationship. Congratulations to you both.

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Congrats. And I’m glad you didn’t instigate this, but allowed her to come to her own conclusion about it. There’s no need to make her feel any worse than she already must feel. I hope you get closer to your mother.

@Donotbelieve That's unfortunate. I totally get it. There is totally such a thing as too little, too late. And for what it's worth, that might be some poor ass way your mom is apologizing for all the shit she did when you were younger. My dad has yet to say, "I'm sorry." The most he'll do is, "I regret," expecting me to say something to make him feel better. I'm done with all that, so whenever he goes on his tirades, I say, "yeah," or "no," because I can't be that mindless of a robot for him.

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Sounds like her critical thinking mode is starting to take over.

@Donotbelieve I admire and respect your attitude and conduct. I have often been too much of an atheist. Blind faith and refusal to do critical thinking can anger me if I let it.

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Well done. And you have a good mother!

@Donotbelieve, I mean just in this context, because they generally just relentlessly fight you and never give up, calling you heretical!...heretical!

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Congrats for escaping hell..

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Wow I’m so torn about this...partly because I envy your situation and partly because I feel so bad for your mother, it is so much more difficult to deconstruct later in life. Backfire effect,

@Donotbelieve well, don’t lose hope...a seed doesn’t grow over night. It has to watered with doubt and “critical thinking” ?

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My introduction to Christianity was having the elders in my family telling me I was going to burn in hell if I sinned. They didn't tell me what sin was and I didn't ask because I thought if I didn't know what it was I could get away with it. I think I was an atheist right out of the chute! I was constantly asking questions about the loving god and his role in disasters, starving children, wars and all the other stuff that seemed out of step with an earthly Christian paradise. I am constantly amazed at seemingly stable, Intelligent people who would gladly have the bible as the law of the land. Brainwashing is hard to overcome. I hope your mother finds the peace she seeks.

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My heart aches that religion put pressure on yours and your mom's relationship. I hope everything gets better and better!

Angee Level 4 Feb 26, 2019
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That's wonderful that your mother complimented you; it doesn't matter ones age, good words from our mothers is heart-warming!

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