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Was asked why I am agnostic and not athiest or religious.

Short answer: We know our universe is vast, so big that we don't really know what is out there. To me it seems arrogant at best to assume we know whether or not there is a supreme being watching over this shitshow we call earth. To quote Bill Cosby, "the proof is in the pudding."

Chucky65 4 Sep 20
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I can't tell you how many times I've said "The proof is in the pudding". You're the only other human I've come across to use that phrase. Excellent!
But I agree. It's extremely arrogant to think we have all the answers. While I will continue to scoff at organized religion, I'm not so foolish to deny the possibility of forces we're not cognizant of.

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The agnostic states that he/she does not, and probably cannot, know whether or not a god exists. Meanwhile, the atheist states that he/she lacks any belief in a deity. One says they don't or can't know, the other says they don't or can't believe. And yet, in daily life, both conduct themselves in much the same way. Neither the agnostic nor the atheist relies on prayer or the supernatural to get through their day. Neither the agnostic nor the atheist accepts the orthodox religious views regarding the origins or age of the Earth. And neither the agnostic nor the atheist expects things to change on this planet unless men and women alone choose to effect such change. In short, when it comes to day-to-day living, the agnostic and the atheist are more similar than they might care to admit.

When I encountered the speeches / writings of Robert Green Ingersoll, the so-called 'Great Agnostic' of the 19th Century, I found no philosophical difference between the atheist and the agnostic. Read for yourself, the essays "Individuality," "The Gods," and "Some Mistakes of Moses."

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"To quote Bill Cosby," you really want to do that, I think it is more like "the getting of the pudding is dependant on the %proof in the drink he gave you"

Nice! My first thought exactly ... why quote Bill Cosby?

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The huge assumptions are made by theists. As an atheist I dismiss their assumptions out of hand. I don't buy into their superstitious nonsense .

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i'm an atheist and i don't presume to KNOW whether or not there is a supreme being. i presume, not arrogantly, to be pretty darned sure, since there is so much evidence that people are making it all up. i mean there is more evidence of unicorns than of gods (i've seen pictures!) and we don't feel arrogant saying there aren't unicorns, do we?

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It seems arrogant to me when absolutes are thrown into it from either side. I should have clarified that in original post.

I used to answer, I know my place in this universe, and its pretty damn small.

I think I'm getting better at it...?

@Chucky65 yes, absolutes can seem arrogant. is your implication that atheists are dealing in absolutes? i think i have answered that.

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@genessa no. Not at all. Not all atheists deal in absolutes. Please don't feel my broad generalizations are towards you. If it came off that way it wasnt my intention.

@Chucky65 i am glad to know it 🙂)

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