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THE HAUNTED MANCHIN -

Why doesn't Joe Manchin just take that final step and officially register as a Republican? His politics are more aligned to their agenda anyway. He haunts the halls of the Senate pretending to be a liberal while secretly being a conservative at heart.

Sgt_Spanky 8 Oct 6
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Manchin voted against the Trump tax law and to keep Obamacare. He's a liberal Democrat. He's also up for reelection this year in a state that Trump carried in 2016 with 68.5% of the vote to 26.4% for Clinton. Manchin calculated that if he voted NO on Kavanaugh he would lose his Senate seat. He's a clever politician, but I hope he loses anyway.

He's a political opportunist and spineless hack whose vote aligns with whatever issue is most advantageous to himself. As it is, those votes tend to favor the Repub agenda.

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It's just 1982 in West Virginia. Give them a break.?

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I agree however there are times when a senator or congress person believes the real fight is next term and they cannot afford NOT TO WIN the election. So they vote only to win and then go on and fight. Now I do not agree with this as the status quo. If I were Joe baby, I would vote democrat and then find a new life later. To serve in the Federal Government is an honor and one should use it to be truthful. Take today to speak and leave the mystery for later.

EMC2 Level 8 Oct 6, 2018
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I agree with what you say. I live in West Virginia, and the only reason I've ever voted for him was when the people running against him were even worse.

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He is a republican and should not be supported for the democratic party.

If he came out against kavanaugh, he would most likely loose the election. We would then loose a democrat senate seat, But still, if I were Joe , I would vote against Brett. I would not worry about next year knowing I supported truth as serving the USA

@EMC2 He votes 71 % with the republicans.

@Marine Oh I agree with you fully, It is the other time he joins in with us. But if he was not there we would have a Trumpet follower with zero cooperation . I want the state to turn Blue once realizing that they loose health care, there are no mining jobs coming back, there is no opiate cure and so on.

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He lives in, and represents, a very republican state and is up for re-election in November. I can understand he wants to represent his constituents, but I don't really like it.

I am going to try to take comfort in the idea that the losers in the Supreme Court battle will likely do better in the mid terms, as voter turnout mid terms are usually driven by anger and those who are upset.

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Manchin is no more to blame for Kavenaugh's confirmation than the other 50 senators who voted "yes."

Didn't he vote "no" on the repeal of the affordable care act?

We lost this one but let's keep our eyes on the ball: a Democratic takeover of congress in 2018!

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Just a couple of things. I am in basic agreement with your post.
I do believe he's calling himself a democrat, when he absolutely tends to
support republican positions.
My primary issue with your post is that simply calling oneself a "democrat" does not automatically make one a "liberal". Not even close.
It's the same as assuming that all republicans are conservatives, which is
also not true.

Please don't consider this an attack against you, I assure you that it is not.
It's just a real point of contention for me that too many people falsely assume
that "democrat" automatically means "liberal", and "republican" automatically
means "conservative".

That fallacy is a huge part of what has been used to divide us.
We are far more than just either/or, and it's not as black and white as those using our differences against us would have us believe.

When I see it, I feel compelled to point it out and explain why it's incorrect.
It's the only way I have to work toward correcting what's gone so wrong.

And I'm in basic agreement with you as well, however, most people with conservative views align with Repubs while most people with liberal views align with Dems so it's generally an accurate barometer of which party one is most likely to align with.

@Sgt_Spanky Which is precisely why those of us who understand that is a fallacy have to speak out against it.
If we want to get more people to move away from the extremes, we've got to show that being a moderate centrist is possible, even while operating within the "party" framework.
It's really hard, but it's worth doing.

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"The Haunted Manchin"

I see what you did there. LOL (Manchin/Mansion)

hahahahahaha you win the internet today

All right!! I've always wanted the internet; there's tons of free porn on it!

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he is a horrible necessity. i wish he would get his ass primaried, but the fact is, he was not primaried; he won his primary. so now we most desperately need a blue majority. what's the difference, you might ask, since he's going to vote with the repugs anyway. the difference is in how the senate itself will behave with a blue majority. the difference will be in what there is to vote on, and how much info the senators get about each bill instead of voting blind. a blue senate could and would order a REAL fbi investigation, or a real senate investigation, and write real bills. people like manchin wouldn't be put in charge of committees. he's just be a blue tushie in a seat that needs to be blue. did i mention horrible necessity? maybe the alternative, an actual republican from west virginia, would not make a difference in terms of that one vote, but the blue tushie would make a WORLD of difference. only in a red senate could manchin's bad votes be so devastating.

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