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NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON answers his accusers, politely and welcomes an investigation to establish the facts

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LenHazell53 9 Dec 10
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Interesting, and sounds kosher. And I'm not a Tyson fan.

It seems all he is asking for is what used to be the norm, the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

@LenHazell53 Um, that's a legal trope for when someone is arrested. Doesn't apply here. In this case however two of the accusations are minor, and the one serious accusation doesn't sound credible. If more accusers step forward, then it may get worse for Mr Tyson depending on the nature of the allegations.

@Druvius So if I were to say you punched me in the face ten years ago, that should be enough for people to decide you are probably guilty until you are prove yourself innocent?
"Doesn't apply here." are you insane????
In the UK at least Innocent until proven guilty is no "Trope" it is known rightly as the golden thread from which our entire system of Justice and law hangs. From the moment of accusation to the moment of acquittal or conviction.
If guilty until proven innocent is the accepted state of affairs UNTIL you are arrested where you live your society is in serious trouble, no wonder you all need flaming guns.

@LenHazell53 No, just aware that "Innocent until proven guilty" is when someone is arrested and charged. And where did I suggest he was guilty?

@Druvius If innocent until proven guilty applies only when arrested and charged, then thee is no presumption of innocence when scurrilous accusations are made against anyone by anyone, they therefore must be assumed as potentially guilty until shown otherwise.
This is the reasoning behind lynch mobs, vigilante justice and witch hunts.
American history is littered with this, most famously the Salem witch trial, where accusation (by children) was enough and trails were used only for sentencing.
This is why Innocent until proven guilty was enshrined in law for all in the Magna Carter and is the most precious concept of societal justice in the UK.

@LenHazell53 And I suggested a lynch mob? No, I suggested that humans can make reasonable judgement about public accusations. Sorry that suggesting people use their brains and good judgement offends you. Your problem, not mine.

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