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I often wonder if those who believe in a higher power were to suddenly lose that belief, not from their own choosing, would they turn into diabolical, murderous, thieving, adulterers? Do these people think they follow humanistic rules only because a higher power is telling them to? They don't think they can be good people just because it's the right thing to do?

It just baffles my mind that people don't give themselves credit for being decent human beings and have to attribute their actions to a god.

It's the same concept as Santa. Tell the kids to be good because Santa is watching, but they're children and don't know any better.

Alimacbean 7 Dec 13
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Why would you wonder that ?

Why not?

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I've heard of people going off the deep end. Happily, I did not throw the baby out with the bathwater. When I discovered that the Bible was mythology rather than reality, I discarded my religious beliefs. However, I held onto the ethics I had learned from the Bible, based on neighborly love. I had to find a new basis for ethics, not the fear of a vengeful god, but my own happiness. I am happiest when I love my neighbors, practice kindness, and do good deeds that make others happy. Because I had to re-examine my ethical foundation, I became more ethical as an atheist than I ever was as a theist.

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If they were to suddenly lose that belief, they would also suddenly change who they are so perhaps their sudden lack of dependency on their invisible sky-daddy would allow them to become aware that they are a part of a social fabric with consequences for actions taken against society.

There are probably a few that would resort to an anti-social behavior but the real world outcome of this thought exercise is so unlikely I'm not going to worry about such an event.

I am sure that even after such a change they would unconsciously continue to behave socially proper. The golden rule is genetic. At least as it pertains to the tribe.

But they no doubt would need support. Especially if they were surrounded by some who would do them harm.

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It didn't happen in my case.

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yep religion is a crutch to thinking. It is hard to take full responsibility of ones own actions and understand how it affects the ones around. In religion, if you make a mistake, you know you will be forgiven because it's ultimately never your fault since it's gawd's plan. Just look at all the catholic church scandals being exposed. Each of those child molesters have asked and been given forgiveness. That loophole and that book will never be conducive to ethical behaviour. It's cognitive dissonance.
(nice new profile pic by the way)

Thanks. ?

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Personally, I think the 'Faithfools', should they ALL suddenly shed their beliefs, would, for the most part, would firstly act like they are in total denial, then slip into the same/similar mindset as exhibited by cage breed birds who have suddenly become free range, i.e. they would mill around dazed, confused, unsure of both themselves and their surrounding, their minds in a dazed, misty fog, stumbling through hours,days, weeks, even months almost aimlessly since their supposed ' guiding light' in life has become nothingness and meaningless.
That is why I refer to them often as being SHEEPLE, since I have often observed actual sheep suddenly deprived of their flock leader/s and those are their actions to a 't'.

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I actually don't think most of them would devolve into monsters. I was mildly surprised that I didn't when I deconverted, but there was no basis other than operant conditioning for me to think that I might.

If anything I feel I am more genuinely moral after my deconversion because there is no element of fear or meeting expectations or demands; doing the right thing is now 100% voluntary and chosen. I don't treat people with kindness for example because some sky wizard or pastor would be disappointed in me or angry with me if I didn't; I do it because I choose to and like contributing to civil society and the happiness of others.

As it should be!

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Such mayhem sounds like fun, but involves a lot of work. I fell back on decency from sheer laziness.

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You forgot the "eating babies" bit.

Are you looking forward to your Christmas Baby as much as I am? ?

@The-Krzyz Oh am I ever, got mine in the freezer at the moment, a nice newly born one, soft tender, almost unsoiled by human hands.
It will taste perfect one thawed out, then slowly smoke over fresh hickory chips and basted with all kinds of seasonings.....LOL.

@Triphid I like the honey-baked, pre-sliced ones. Great with mixed veggies!

@The-Krzyz Male or female babies?
I tend to prefer the females, the meat is so sweet and tender....LOL.

@Triphid Hell, they’re all tender at that age. What’s important to me is that they are free range babies. I don’t go for the farmed stuff.

@The-Krzyz Me too, the farmed stuff has way too many chemicals and steroids for my liking....LOL.

pineapple, pineapple, pineapple, pineapple,...

@The-Krzyz . . . "free range babies" that is going to tickle me for at least a week.

@Jacar I remember the Old Days, when herds of babies blackened the Plains, roaming free. Then came the White Man, and the railroads, and the Baby Hunters ...

@The-Krzyz . . . My daddy's kin told of such wonders. A harvest without effort. A gift from god himself.
I share your yearning to return to such a wonderful time in our history.

@Jacar My people would use the baby for everything — food, clothing, shelter. Nothing went to waste ... OK, we’d better stop now, before we anger the Great Baby that watches over us all ...

@The-Krzyz . . . thanks. My Rick was in a crash. He still can play. But not as quickly, nor as absurdly.

Thanks.

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I've always thought Santa is just a metaphor for GAWD. How to control the kids? Santa! How to control the adults? Jeebus! "Cause everyone knows we can't manage our own ethics!

Exactly!

Santa is an anagram for aantS. which is code for something. I think. Maybe.

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