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I know this will be an unpopular opinion with some of you. And, it's okay to disagree with me because this is just an opinion.

You cannot defend your home from more than 2 assailants simultaneously and you don't (and shouldn't) need more than 2 rounds each to drop them. If you require more than 2 bullets to take out an invader in your home, you don't need an AR-15. You need some training. AR-15 style weapons serve no good purpose for the general population. It's not a hunting rifle and it's not a weapon that is necessary to protect your family. There are plenty of handguns and other rifles that will do the job. That type of weapon is military grade and isn't required for anything by the general public. And before you come back at me with the need to "protect ourselves from our government", tell me where I can buy an Apache helicopter. Or, tell me what weapon you have that will drop an F-22 out of the sky.

Duke 8 Feb 16
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Also: 5.56 NATO is awful for home defence because it'll go through multiple walls. You killed the burgler! Too bad you hit your kid through the wall...

If you really, REALLY want a weapon to defend your home, get a damn pump-action shotgun. The crik-CHACK of the pump is a naturally occuring brown-note and excellent deterrent.

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You are not alone.

Donna Level 6 Feb 19, 2018
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Wow. Reading all these comments has only solidified my belief that the desire and practice of owning assault rifles is a direct symptom of the American attitude. Step back a minute from your particular proclivities and consider.
America is basically the teenager of the world. Historically speaking, we are a young civilization. And how do teenagers act? Like they know it all. They have "just enough knowledge to be dangerous" as the saying goes. And they like to go over the top, so to speak, for shock effect. Is this not true of our culture? Is this not true of a huge part of our collective attitude?
It's not enough we cut or grow our hair to be "rebels"...let's shave it or dye it hot pink. It's not enough to have a car...let's make it a hot rod and race the shit outta that thing...I'm faster than you all! It's not enough to own one or two firearms for protection and hunting for food...fuck that shit, man...let's get some assault rifles so we can shoot the hell outta something! You'll take the guns outta my cold, dead fingers, fuckers!
It's insane. And we're too proud to admit we are wrong and too proud to listen. Instead, we attack each other...then extend all our energies into finding something else to blame for it. Can anyone understand where I'm coming from? Just look at our popular culture! What is glorified here? We are a proud, arrogant, willfully ignorant and loud people. We have not learned humility or subtley in any way. And it shows!
And we're apparently dying for it.
We must change our attitudes.

That is such a good post. The US refuses to see how the rest of the world handles things. We are like a 10 year old trying to teach or grandparents about life. I get so tired of the saying "we are the greatest country in the world" while people suffer and die from lack of health care. When we point out better ways to do things "they" say "america, love it or leave it." I asked them how did that work for slaves and native americans? It is only logical to make comparisons of how other countries do things to help us to improve our system to benefit "we the people".I have become ashamed of my country and would like our policies to change to benefit all people.

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Last month , a couple living in a gated community adjacent to mine , came home to find their home had been invaded by thieves . The thieves tied them to chairs and put a bullet through the home owners' heads . The thieves took money , jewelry , and guns . Because it was a gated community , the thieves had parked their car near the gate , and entered by crawling under the gate , limiting how much stuff they could carry away . So they returned several times over the next few days . So yes , if you have guns to protect your lives and your property , you do need to wear them , all the time .

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I'm with @Duke!!!

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Not an unpopular opinion for me. I agree. I also like non-lethal weapons like Mace and Tasers because than you won't kill a neighbor/family member/or a pet if you are mistaken. They may never talk to you again - but it's better than being dead.
And the ammo for these guns? Goes right through walls. I don't live that close to my neighbor but I'm betting there could be some "friendly fire" with something like an AR-15.

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Speek for your self, man. I shoot three gun. I can place 30 rounds on 10 targets in just over 30 seconds. Besides that, the more well armed people around me, the longer we will last or have a higher chance of survival. Lockheed Martin and dyna corp. can supply you with all that. With the right papers, and or a big enough bank account you can have those.

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Congrats to Eskimos who live in igloos. Not only would it be easier to defend one's home when "they" have to come single file - and enter on their hands and knees - but the second one must also get up and over the first downed one. The third one might not even have enough room to get his head inside the "door!".

A flamethrower fixes that.

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I PRETTY MUCH AGREE WITH YOU. I grew up with guns and know how to use them well. I don't have any guns. For a gun to protect a person they would have to have it loaded and in reach at all times. Most people end up shooting family and friends. Think of all robberies and break ins that happen with guns in the house. By numbers it is rare that a person who owns a gun stops a crime. The only way would be for a person to carry a gun with them at all times. They would also have to have the mentality that all people they don't know are seen as a threat. That would be the same mentality as the police have. To me that would be a terrible way to live. You would be living a life of fear.

All the guns in the world won't protect you from a 1st strike.

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You must live in a rather barbaric, uncivilised, lawless and dangerous country when you have to worry about these kinds of things. I never had to and probably never will have to because luckily, we found much better ways to deal with this which do not force our society to be armed to our teeth and consequently have some of us shoot some others of us.

So how is gun ownership handled there?

All countries I have been living in for longer amounts of time are part of the European union which means that all countries have to implement the European Firearms directive but are free to implement stricter regulations. See here: [en.wikipedia.org]
However the countries I have lived in and Britain were I currently live in (Britain) all implement much stricter regulations. The details are complex, but basically, before one can own any firearm, one needs to apply for a certification that gives a good reason. The situation is similar in other European countries. Gun owners will get background-checked, often need to make a test, need to give a good reason (self defence is only accepted e.g. if you have a very dangerous job, not in general), and have to expect controls (e.g. making sure that firearms are safely locked away in a safe).
As I said, the details are quite complex but it is all on there on the Internet if you are interested.
All of these countries, consequently, have a much lower rate of e.g. people getting killed by toddlers than the US. Policemen also do not have to routinely expect everyone to carry a weapon and thus it does not happen that a teenager gets shot by the police because they thought he carried a weapon but then it turned out it was a toy.

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