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Dualism and the Infinite You!

If you can't create an absolute physical something from a state of affairs of absolute nothingness, then something physical has always existed. Then if you have a Cosmos in which only a finite amount of something physical exists (and has always existed), then whatever goes around comes around, again and again and again, including you. It's like having a dozen eggs each of a different color in their egg carton. There are only so many finite ways you can arrange those dozen eggs within their carton before a pattern is repeated and has to be repeated. That being the case, it would seem likely that you, that is your essence or consciousness, would have to get recycled again and again and again.

Now the interesting question arises, do you end up living (an infinite number of times) the existence of everything that has ever lived? Have you experienced the conscious existence of every living thing ever, from microbe to insect to fish to reptile, bird and mammal (and presumably that would include all examples of extraterrestrial life forms as well)? Or, do you and your consciousness only come with the current bodily package you're currently inhabiting (albeit that current bodily package has also gone around an infinite number of times) and you and your consciousness get a break between the reincarnations of that bodily package? In other words, does every life form have its own unique you / consciousness inhabiting it that perpetuates again and again no matter how many times that life form comes back around? If so, your own you / consciousness only pops back into existence with your every rebirth of your bodily package. If not, what's the implications for you / consciousness?

Because the you / consciousness that inhabits each and microbe to insect to fish to reptile, bird and mammal is a quite different sort of you / consciousness, every you / consciousness would have to be different depending on what body came up for you / your consciousness to inhabit next. There's therefore no consistent you / consciousness. The concept of you / consciousness is purely material. There is no independent you / consciousness existence, just dependence on whatever body package needs that you / your consciousness element which emerges materially from scratch each round.

On the other hand, if you / consciousness is a consistent you / consciousness then you / your consciousness can only go around and come around, again and again and again in the exact same body package you currently find yourself in. That then raises the question, would every slight variation in your body package be inhabited by a different you / consciousness, such that if you have blue eyes now, you'd never inhabit a nearly identical body next time around that just happened to have brown eyes instead. If that’s the case you / your consciousness is immaterial and has some uniformity of composition that is only dependent for its existence on one exact body package or plan.

johnprytz 7 Jan 23
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Shortcut. Nothing is something it is the absence of anything.

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Simplistic reasoning, and you appear to be confusing physics and philosophy. Of course we have come around multiple times or at least some of the atoms of which our bodies are constructed have. You or I may have carbon or hydrogen atoms that previously were in Shakespeare's body. Doesn't turn us in to poets unfortunately. All of the elements on earth were produced when stars exploded billions of years ago and when the sun becomes a red giant they will be scattered to be recycled again.

@johnprytz [bing.com]
I think Physics used to be called natural philosophy but the two are totally different.

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Yet another one of those questions that none of us will really have a difinitive answer to until we get there... or not.

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This proves that the universe has always existed IN SOME form!

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Mate, get yourself a good physics 101 book. And that Jung book you’re holding, drill a hole thru it and hang it by a string in the toilet.

@johnprytz There’s a big difference between infinite and a scalar field. There’s no such thing as infinite. Any basic physics book is more than adequate to refute what you’re proposing.

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