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I am sure that posting something against capitalism will not be popular but what the hey. Not on this planet to become popular are we? [monbiot.com]

ToolGuy 9 May 2
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I have posted this before. There is a group who has been around for a few years [thezeitgeistmovement.com] ,that advocates for a resource based economy and notes that our current form of capitalism is unsustainable. They have some very good ideas.

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I am of the opinion that capitalism shoudl be highly regulated to prevent expooitation, adn other excesses associated with it.

I liek the model of Democratic Socialism (as done in many countries in Northern Europe), which is basically highly regulated capitalism.

@Bierbasstard Wioth three videos I had hopes fo three different sources, not all from the same source.

Success can be measured in several different ways. If you measure success i how happy are the peopel who live in the society, then it is a tremendous success.

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Truth is rarely popular. As atheists and agnostics, we should all be well aware of this.

JimG Level 8 May 2, 2019
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I don't understand how we can call ourselves progressive and enlightened beings if we continue to hang on so tightly to outdated and no longer useful ideas, theories, etc. At least be open to other possibilities to meet the obviously changing world...what worked in the past needs to be given a nice pat on the back and sent to retirement...change does not have to be a dirty word or one that creates fear...

I am glad people are offering insight and possible solutions...when something stops working, we have to find new ways...I am not going to get into the semantics and pigeon-hole myself as a capitalist or any other title...I want what will work for many and not just a few...

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I would like to give just one factor: In 2017, The United States needed 40% of the world's natural resources.So does the old world ( Europe and russia. China also needs 40 % of natural resources and India requires the same for comntinue on the growth curve. Thank goodness, most people are not mathematically schooled enough to detect the problem. And meanwhile, Africa ( not united yet, thank goodness) wonders how their standard of living will ever come up the the rest of the world.
Continuous growth is not possible, and capitalism depends on it.

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Capitalism is the worst economic system of all time, except for all the others.

Some sort of capitalist economy with a democratic-socialist oversight to look after those left out is the only solution I can see. Nobody does anything for selfless motives.

Just as an example; in an anarchist society, who's going to run the sewage plant?

I wonder how a capitalist society where everyone receives UBI would fare.

@demifeministgal No matter how much people have, some people will want more. There's always an incentive to earn. BUT: in my example above, since nobody would be forced to work such a job merely to survive, the society would have to offer a very decent wage or other incentive to do it.

Take for another example, my current career in corrections. Sure, you could pay people $10 to do it, but you'd get a very different caliber of person doing the job and they wouldn't do it the same way. Prisons would look like the stereotype with corrupt staff and prisoners running the cell block, not trained professional staff.

The dirtier the job, the more you need to pay if you want it done well.

@Paul4747 Yea that's why I think those that wanted more could pursue jobs they actually enjoy or are passionate about because their basic financial needs would be met via UBI. Imagine what a better, more productive work force that would be where people work in areas of passion! 😮

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Especially when run by greedy asshole

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Thanks for the post. I for one believe capitalism is great in theory but fails due to greed.

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Absolutely agree capitalism is driving us into a pit.

I knew it wasn't a good system from the time I took my first course in Economics.
We need something to support all people.

I don't have the answers but capitalism? Isn ''t it.

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You may be surprised - I suspect the majority of users of this site would at least question whether uncontrolled, growth-at-all-costs capitalism is a good idea, and quite a few of us are somewhere on the "anti-capitalist" spectrum.

Jnei Level 8 May 2, 2019

Can anyone dispute that the industrial capitalist culture is the root of most of societies ills and is totally unsustainable. Only something like the Green New Deal will save the earth. All the push back is from capitalists and their lemming zombie followers.

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