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I am an old, married man intending to stay married. But, if I were younger and single, I would be direct in meeting women. In getting to know a physically attractive women, I would say directly: :You are a physically lovely woman. But, what I would like to know is whether your personality and ability to relate to people are equally as lovely?"

wordywalt 9 May 3
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So why you didn't do that? Are you regretting your life? Some people find happiness in knowledge, friends, movies, education, feel intellectual helpful, enjoying time alone, thinking on deep thoughts, etc..., and others not, thats all.

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I am assuming you would ask this question with some finesse? Or perhaps a slightly different tone? What you are really saying is while someone might be physically attractive you are looking for other qualities as well?

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You would need balls of steel - mentally and physically

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Get to really know her physical love is great but you need emotional love

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Anyone with a brain could easily lie to you then...wouldn't it be better to discover this for yourself through observing and paying attention to how this person treats others, engages socially, holds conversations, etc?

I am guessing that many would simply answer, "Yes"...and probably mean it in some aspects...are you willing to take their word? 🙂

At the very least, it would alert to woman as to what I would be looking for in a woman and relationship. If that is not what she wanted, all well and good. I would also be observing her behavior if we saw each other again and making my assessments.

@wordywalt I am just being contrary...🙂

I remember the days when I admired guys who came right out and just asked me if I wanted to fuck...sure beat playing the stupid game for two hours or more... 🙂

@thinktwice nihilistic?

@AnggelloDlivio the behavior or the person? You are going to have to be a bit more explanatory...

@thinktwice i was asking, if your philosophy its nihilism?

@AnggelloDlivio Not at all...I am a pragmatist...

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It is the age old debate between direct honesty and politically correct diplomacy. The problem with direct honesty is that it tends to be brutal and insensitive. You may offend someone worth knowing, but then it's too late. (Men only get a second chance in the movies; Women feel so embattled that forgiveness is rarely forthcoming. Hell, most men won't even get a first chance.) The problem with politically correct diplomacy is that it is not sincere or honest and a few of the quality women may pick up on that. So, you have to put on your thinking cap and find some middle ground. Entertaining with humor is the best ice-breaker. Starting with hard questions is a turn-off. When it comes to flirting, it's pleasure first, then business.

I strongly disagree that direct honesty is or tends to be brutal. It does not have to be and should not be. Give a person credit for possible good judgment and civility.

Are you kidding?

@racocn8 No way. As an example, my eldest daughter had not been a serious student in high school. When she finally did go to college she was taking her first English course. She wrote per first paper. My wife showed it to me , and it was very poorly written.

I told my daughter that the paper was very poor, but that if she would work with me, we could make it good. Then I went over the problems with the paper one by one, asking her, "Now, what can be do to improve this> I used the paper to teach her the basic principles of writing and had her use the principles on the spot. She got an "A" on the paper and became a good r She credits my direct and honest feedback and help for teaching her to write. She was not angry or hurt.

There are times when a direct speech is the most kind and helpful. Y If you say otherwise, you are dead wrong.

I put my name as part of this statement.

@wordywalt if my fat wife, ask me if she is fat, how i supposed not to be dishonest, for the best of all the group?

@AnggelloDlivio If my wife had become overweight, I would tell her that, for her health, public image, and self-concept, she needs to loose weight and that I would help her to do so.

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Ninety percent of people believe they are above average. It's like men who insist women don't date "nice guys" like them. Instead, their bad behavior repels women.

It takes time to get to know someone.

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time," Maya Angelou said.

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Most of us would probably reply by asking why it is that you feel entitled to ask such a question or to get an answer to it. Such an approach might have been effective on a woman in the 1950s or 60s, who lacked enough self esteem, but present day women tend to understand that their primary purpose for existing is not to validate men nor to meet their criteria for adequacy. You might even get a drink in the face.

Deb57 Level 8 May 3, 2019

I beg to differ. It would take a woman with great character and inner strength to address that question without getting bent out of shape. I learned from my first marriage the difference between shallow, self-absorbed pretty women and women of strength and character. I have never made that mistake again.

A women who acted in such a manner would be betraying her lack of civility and character.

As I think about it, if I had invited a lady to dinner in a sincere effort to determine if there were sufficient mutual grounds for pursuing the possibility of an ongoing relationship, and that lady threw a glass of wine my face for asking the sincere question I stated above, she would regret having shown such crudely uncivil and disrespectful behavior. I Without thinking, would have dumped her place of food into her lap and walked out, leaving her to pay the bill.

That you don't recognize your question as an insult is very telling. That you would respond to an aggressive gesture with an even more aggressive one, especially to someone probably at a physical disadvantage to you, is even more so. That you would consider inviting someone somewhere and then deliberately leave them possibly financially stranded and also possibly in actual physical danger for that same reason is inexcusable.

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That's funny... I don't think that would go over too well..

Good. I would want to waste my time with that person, anyway.

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