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Why are so many religious people strongly opposed to a woman's right to choose abortion?
Such a stance is not supported by the Bible. Consider Exodus 21: 22-25:
The woman is not killed in this passage. Only the fetus dies in the encounter. The resulting punishment for the miscarriage is a mere fine. The Bible continues with declaring that had the woman died, the death penalty would be imposed under the principle of a “life for a life.” If the fetus was considered a life then the death penalty would be imposed under the principle of a “life for a life” but since a fine is imposed it is understood that the fetus is not considered a life. From this it is clearly understood that a fetus is not considered a full human life, otherwise the punishment would be death under the subsequently enumerated literal biblical principle of lex talionis (‘eye for an eye&rsquo😉.
Do you think the Bible would proscribe a monetary punishment for the killing of a human being? The Bible does not even deem the act of wrongfully causing a miscarriage as criminal. It’s obvious that based on a literal reading of this passage, the Bible does not view a fetus as a full human life or abortion as murder.
Then there is Genesis 2:7 in which God does not declare Adam to be a living being until after he breathes the breath of life. A fetus does not breathe the breath of life.
Furthermore, you can scour the Bible with a fine-toothed comb, yet you will not find any passage that describes a prohibition or penalty for a woman who chooses to terminate her pregnancy. Not a single verse yet the anti-abortion movement continues to declare, in the name of God, that abortion is murder. It seems that God left out the prohibition of abortion or perhaps does not consider a fetus a full human life. Why consider abortion to be murder when God does not, according to the Bible?

Are such Christians simply choosing their traditions over the Bible? And if one chooses tradition over the Bible, can one truly be a Christian?

Heraclitus 8 Mar 8

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Abortion is legal in Canada because the fetus isnot considered human intil it is born. That being said access to abortion is severely limited after 20 weeks unless there is a real medical emergency or reason.


Because most religions are really a way to control people. Especially women.


Most of the anti-abortion people I find greatly annoying and outrageous. I have heard them say "If women want to be sluts, they deserve to be punished with childbirth." Or this one "I would rather see abused children than allow women to abort them." Or this one "There is no such thing as child abuse. That is a lie told by the liberal media." These folks are head cases.

SKH78 Level 8 Mar 8, 2018



God, sitting on a cloud with a big red button and a big green button, watching people having sex. Pressing the green button if he wants to bless that sex with pregnancy, and the red button if he doesn't. And given that the big fella decided to press green (even if it's a 12 year old girl being raped by her father) nobody has the right to reverse that decision and make it red.

That's the mentality that you're up against. It's also the same mentality that abhors any kind of sex that doesn't give God an opportunity to press the green button. Masturbation and same sex intimacy don't result in an opportunity to press green, therefore they're off limits. Contraception is a bit contentious (Catholicism still doesn't like it) but since no method of contraception is 100% foolproof, God just has to push the green button that bit harder.


People don't realize how young this doctrine is:


It was invented out of whole cloth in the 1980s to assist with the unholy marriage of Christian fundamentalism and right wing politics.


There is a verse wherein the Big Dude on Cloud Nine recommends, no, commands an abortion. The Hot Shot on High even invents the procedure to be followed. Now, there is some nuance, but what this scripture says is that an unfaithful wife can be accused, tried, and convicted without any other foundation than suspicion on the husband's part and that she will suffer an abortion and be sterile for the remainder of her life based on her husband's word. Obviously, Mr. Miraculous has a great deal of respect for women. Oh, the scripture is Numbers 5:11-31.

As far as I know there is no place in the bible, beginning to end, that speaks to abortion in such a way as to prohibit it, and there are several places where the notion that anything contained in the womb is not considered a human life. That only occurs upon taking several breaths of 'life' and not before. Nowhere in the bible is that idea refuted without taking liberal license with what the born agains have become expert at -- gross interpretation based on modern thinking.


Probably because they've been told "it's wrong".

If I remember correctly, there is a passage in the bible that capitally punishes a man for ejaculating outside of a woman.


It's usually white men that spearhead this kind of thing. It's been going on since time immemorial.


I think it is somply a way to distract the gullible. What happened to the seven deadly sins, and the idea of a rich man going to heaven is like the proverbial camel and the needle eye? What happened to love thy neighbor? What happened to those that lived by the sword dying by the sword or render unti Ceasar and on and on. The old beliefs are gone and now it is blame those that are different. If one is gullible in the first place one can be manipulated. The wealthy want us to be distracted by other things so that they don't look at the rich and powerful ones giving the message. It is about control pure an simple and those being controled may be simple but they are certaintly not pure.



everyone interested in this topic should read Numbers chapter 5. You all tell me if that chapter does or does not describe a chemical abortion for an extramarital pregnancy.


Why you quote the Bible at us?

@El-loco -- Comes right out of "The Art of War", my friend. That's why.


It was never about concern for the unborn, but about creating a wedge issue that could be used by devious politicians to coerce the faithful into voting them into power. If concern for babies was the priority the same politicians who fight against abortion wouldn't be fighting against children's access to affordable healthcare.

It seems they contradict themselves in numerous ways when it comes to actual policy and actions they contribute to.


I believe the history is that abortion wasn't banned until the industrial revolution. When factories needed more labor and governments could equip larger militaries, it became a sin and a crime to deny them manpower.

JimG Level 8 Mar 8, 2018

As far as I am concerned, male legislators ought to have no say in women's family planning decisions.


Because it all comes down to control. Educated,prosperous women who can plan their families are more difficult to control.

and can even obtain an abortion if needed.


They cherry-pick what suits them. Just further example of their abject hypocrisy.
They have no credibility. Not a single one of them.

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