At last! Someone gets it! Hats off!

Yep-on to relavant pressing issues.

I’m just playing a thought game here. Deconstruction philosophy just suggests that, very crudely, a position only has existence because of its opposite. For example the police only exist because criminals exist. Without criminals the police are unnecessary therefore their existence is only justified by their polarity.

@Geoffrey51 Well I guess that if everyone agrees there wasn't a god, there wouldn't be a term for it. Or a need. So I see what you mean.

No religion is not the same as belief in something not provable. Religion is the structure built around belief as a way to harness it as a force for change in the world. And within it their is a massive variety of expression. Some use it as a simple social construct for help, community and a sense of belonging. Not caring the truth or falsehood of "God" these people like many humans wish for a greater sum then themselves to define their lives or find value in a group playing at believing as that is the price for membership as it were.. Others, "true" believers literally believe in texts and tend to be the ones who need others to believe and need to define themselves against the nonbelievers. Other true believers care only for their own personal connection with their God and care little for others opinions. These archetypes exist in other social constructs such as ethnic cultures, national identity, even within communities such as LGBTQ, Gaming communities etc. All share a often poisonous need to reflect themselves off the "other". What you are really saying I think is without belief in the unproven everyone would be Atheist. Perhaps though to me that would be a boring, grey sad world.

Can’t you debate things that are real anyway. You don’t need religion as a reason NOT to do that. Why not just ignore religion and debate the things that are important to you?

@Geoffrey51 I do debate things that are real, and important to me, but the post was about religion, so my comment was about religion. What I was getting at is far too much time is spent by humanity discussing the various aspects of religion. I, for one, wish it had never been invented, but it's a little late for that. But you make a good point: I will from this point on not enter into religious discussions on this site. I do, however, reserve the right to discuss unicorns and dragons here.

@StevenWilbur Better some imaginary creatures than none at all

@Geoffrey51 That's my line of reasoning.