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Are we suffering from existential dread or the real thing? Are we going to spend our lives arguing the difference between atheist and agnostic or take responsibility? [science.anu.edu.au]

Allamanda 8 May 16
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Upon signing up, this site provided me with several definitions. Atheist and Agnostic were among them, and were as follows... Atheist - A person that does not believe in a God or Gods. Agnostic - A person that sees no evidence that a God or God's exist. I do admit, those definitions left me wanting more. But if they are accurate, then I'm both. I don't believe a God exists because I can see no evidence that a God exist.
I welcome any expansion on that.

Okay, I’ll expand my own comment. After reading a rather lengthy description of Atheism and Agnosticism, I’m to understand that Agnosticism is a reason for Atheism. Which would shadow my world view of not believing because I see no evidence of a God. I’m still a little perplexed. Would that make any atheist an Agnostic as well? And would it also make any Agnostic an Atheist? Don’t see how you can be one without being the other. There’s not much left, except Anti-theism. Or am I missing something?

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I feel dread, of dying, mostly because I'm having a heck of a good time and I'll hate to see it end.
Plus, I'm agnostic, which means I'm pretty sure no one knows what they're talking about, including me, so I take nothing seriously. What, me worry? Who cares?!?
So you see I'm an intentional fool and damned proud ot it! Try it some time.

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Thank you for sharing. I hope we reach the social tipping point we need to change things before it is too late.

LB67 Level 7 May 18, 2019
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ach can't edit either, and can't approve pending posts. there is one below, which may or may not be approved (or rejected) by the time i submit this, which says (i'll copy and paste): "What's the difference between exiexistential dread and 'the real thing'? i wanted to approve it so i could reply simply "since when is existential the opposite of real? existential and real are not only not opposites, they're not mutually exclusive. is it big or is it green? is it drunk or is it 10 feet tall?

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i'm having trouble getting the reply button to work so all i can do is post a new comment. ag dot com is having technical difficulties i suppose. so my reply to the reply to my comment below would've been "true enough, there certainly are -- good thing we can multitask!"

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Humans have been conditioned for a long time to live the way we live. It's not going to be turned around in a day, especially when the powers that be don't change the way the system works. They should have started changing the system in the 50s when they discovered peak oil (Hubbert's Peak) was going to be an issue. Climate change wouldn't be so detrimental right now if they did that. The government had the data. It's their fault. As soon as the public got the data, we have been complicit in it. With the benefits of society right now because of oil etc., I don't know if the public could go back to life like it was before fossil fuels. Even using solar and wind only prolongs the fossil fuel problem. During that period, people will probably still ignore the problem and think everything is fine. The powers that be might think that by the time the oil runs out, billions will die because of it anyway and the Earth will recycle.

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What's the difference between exiexistential dread and "the real thing"?

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I suppose it's because I'm not a breeder, but I believe that there is nothing that could stop the tragic trajectory of our animal species. Neil deGrasse Tyson said it best. The Earth will last forever, it's humans that are headed for extinction. If we were a planet of overpopulated environmentalists the situation would be the same.

@Allamanda sorry it still doesn't change the way that I feel. I try to do what I can and by not breeding that's already a lot more than the overwhelming majority of people do .Overpopulation is overpopulation. the Human animals life is in its own hands. There is no way that we could turn things around now. People are going to be resistant to change until absolute complete total disaster strikes and they have no choice.

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We can't change a thing until all of humanity stops the use of fossil fuels or at the very least sequesters more carbon than is released by the use of those fuels. Have you done that yet? I know I haven't and no one I know has either. It looks like Australia is being hit the hardest while Russia will get the advantages because of the warming Arctic. I fear for our grandchildren.

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my spending a few moments telling those who think it's horribly important to distinguish between agnostics and atheists how silly they are doesn't prevent me from acting upon more pressing concerns.

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@Allamanda AND it has been discussed to freaking death. Do we REALLY need ten posts about that subject per week?

@OpposingOpposum ah it's letting me use the reply button again! lol yes apparently we do... i don't see why, but it keeps happening so someone needs to do it. 'sigh

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@genessa doing pointless things over and over doesn't mean they NEED to be done.

@OpposingOpposum no, but the doers perceive a need. yes, it is tedious. yes, we can ask them to browse or search before posting unoriginal stuff. as we can sadly note, our advice is not often heeded.

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I don't care about one or the other, I just don't believe. You can call me anything you want, that's your perception of me, which is out of my hands. As far as responsibility, not really sure what do you mean.

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I have never experienced existential dread. Take responsibility for what?

Since age 13, I have been an atheist when I realized the Bible is just a book of stories written by men.

I chose rational thinking, instead of magical beliefs. I don't believe in an invisible being that resides somewhere beyond the clouds.

"How did the universe begin?" Christians demand I explain. Not this again.

"Nobody knows," I reply. "Since when does being an atheist make me an astrophysicist?"

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I chose agnostic because I don’t care either way. I don’t even think about it. I find the topic a complete waste of time.

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Yeah, I have never suffered from existential angst.
I already know the difference between atheist and agnostic.
I don't feel any need to take responsibility for anything.
I'm completely comfortable with being an atheist.
I am relatively unconcerned with why agnostics can't commit to a position, but
that's their deal. If they don't know, they don't know.

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Meh.

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