I am having difficulty understanding why so many atheists, in general refuse to believe the overwhelming evidence that we are not alone in the Universe.
Ancient peoples for the most part, understood this. They also created art representing that a diety (s) came from the stars, or for a lack of a better word, heaven. Their art refected misunderstiod technology coming from other worldly beings.
Our own galaxy contains more than 3, 000, 000, 000 stars, which are mostly likely solar systems much like our own. Add to those odds, there are many billions of galaxies in the Universe.
Most of humans, believed a few centuries ago that the Earth was flat. In fact, there are several organizations that still believe in a flat earth.
Im open minded, i do believe 1,000 percent that extrarerrestials have been visting our planet for thousands of years and quite possibily living with us still. And that they have shared their technoligies with us. I also believe most races of exterrestials are benevolent toward earthlings.
They have not shown themselves openly because of their fears of we humans and how we will react. Destruction if anything different from us how humans act. I hope i live long enough to see them and perhaps welcome them to our planet.
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You can't be 1000% sure of anything because per cent means "parts per hundred". Being 1000% sure of anything is mathematically imposssible.
Speaking of math, you are no doubt familiar with Fermi's Paradox--The statistical probability of life elsewhere is high, but the lack of compelling evidence cancels the probability out.
So, if we were, for the sake of keeping this discussion from entering the realm of the silly (too late), to examine Fermi's Paradox, and say, "Yeah, they're out there! Why don't they talk to us?", we can use Occam's Razor to cut it down to three simple, elegant possibilities:
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They're far away, and at a comparable level of technological and cultural advancement as we are. They've arrived at the same conclusions as we have, but like us, lack the technology to travel interstellar distances.
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They're behind us in technology and cultural development, and are possibly unaware that life elsewhere other than their own planet exists. They could be in their equivalent of prehistory, antiquity or the dark ages.
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They're capable of traveling the vast distances between solar systems, but don't see us as intelligent beings, and don't communicate with us for the same reason we don't communicate with white mice.
It would explain both halves of the paradox.
MattChanning1
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May 20, 2019
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Your point 3 sounds like the Prime Directive in Star Trek. Don't interfere with the evolution of primitive spiecies.
Assertions made without evidence can be dismissed without consideration.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
MattChanning1
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May 20, 2019
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You keep bringing up UFO's. Yes there are UFO"S. They are correctly called unidentified flying objects. I saw one last week when an aluminum pie pan flew out of my sisters hand.
freeofgod
Level 8
May 20, 2019
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that was an Un-immediately-identified Flying Object...
I never say no when it comes to technology and advances made by intelligent beings.
When I was born in 1950, there was no cell phones, personal computers, internet, color tv, no manned or unmanned space craft, no ground penetrating radar, etc.
Sputnik was the first satellite that Russians sent up in circa 1959.
The possibility that there is Extraterrestials living in other solar systems, advanced maybe 1, 000, 10,000 years ahead of planet earth is a very real possibility. THAT interplanetary travel to this solar system is not out of the question. And any danger earthlings may face traveling to Mars, certainly has been overcome by extraterrestials.
The probability of life on other planets, much more advanced than earthlings seems to scare most of you. As your continued denials, admonishments and insults relect.
Actually, you correctly identified it. It's an IFO.
I'm quite interested in this particular theory actually. I would like to add a few remarks, if you please:
ahem
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Y'all are crazy as hell. No, it is highly unlikely we're alone in the universe. But aliens having visited us? No. Every last one of those things you've mentioned as "evidence" all have histories you could study and figure out exactly how they were put there.
Plus, UFOs do not = aliens. They are objects. That we don't know what they are. That usually end up having a super dumb explanation. It's not that I wouldn't believe fantastical shit, it's just that fantastical shit never has anything beyond this sort of anecdotal evidence. Give me something concrete, just like I say to Jesus worshipers, and I'll believe.
Xuande
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May 20, 2019
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I also believe that we are unlikely to be the lone "intelligent" species in the universe but as others are on planets light years away it is very unlikely that we have been visited by any of them
Moravian
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May 20, 2019
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Unlikely is a better way than saying never. I appreciate that.
You have a really low opinion of our anscestors.
@MattChanning1 Not at all. I think those spaceship landing ramps they built in Egypt are amazing 
@Moravian they have landing ramps in S. America, too.
Monoliths made of mega stones by "Hunter gatherers" with tools unfit /unable to carve and moved into place.
UK many temples built with mega ton blocks, not just Stonehenge
France
Gobleki Tepe in Turkey giant mega ton monoliths over 10,000 years old.
Balbec, Lebanon, one stone weights 1,000 TONS.
Cori Concha in Peru
China monoliths and pyramids
Egypt pyramids 2 million 5 ton blocks
Thailand Angna Wat
Nepal
Mexico City
Sardinia tombs of the Giants
Iran
Iraq.
Italy
Easter Island 900 monoliths weighing over 50 tons each
Marquees Islands monoliths and sculptures of ancient aliens
Greece
Cambodia
Bolivia, temples made with perfectly shaped multi ton blocks.
Katsarecool
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May 20, 2019
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Multiple UFO sittings before, during and after the meltdowns at Chernoble and Fukshima. I believe aliens are watching us and actively trying to protect homosaphiens from destroying our planet and everything in it.
Image of mega stones at Baalbac, Lebanon. The largest weighs 1,000 TONS.
Ohferpetessake, you can see entire documentaries showing people t9day, in imitation, using primitive devices to fit huge stones, move huge stones vast distances, etc etc....treating our ancestors as idiots is idiotic!
@AnneWimsey actually you are wrong. There is no machine on earth that can lift between 1,000 and 1650 TONs. It just not possible even with today's technology.
The walls of Cori Cancha in Cusco, Peru. Each rock weighs at least 300 to 500 tons, uses no mortar, cannot even slide a piece of paper between blocks. Impossible task for Hunter gatherers. They had engineering help from other worldly people. No doubt about it.
Puma Punku, Bolivar. Estimated construction date 13,500 BCE.
You can take the beliefs of primitive peoples for your own, if you wish, but your idea that everybody should is just arrogant. At best.
AnneWimsey
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May 20, 2019
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I'm not arrogant. I'm realistic
Examples that shouldnt be dismissed easily.
More artists from the past.
@Katsarecool so, maybe Picasso knew something too?
@AnneWimsey oh Picasso knew color and texture and not much else except how to fool rich folks into buying his crap
Drakes equation is quite logical and in fact it is illogical to suppose we are alone in the universe based just on statistics and the number of planets out there. I have watched videos where they show things on the surface of mars that can only have been fabricated but I thought the videos were themselves fabricated. Then I went on JPL NASA's website and downloaded their raw photos and sure enough, I saw things that had to have been fabricated. I still withhold final judgment until Elon Musk or NASA reach the red planet and I hope they are smart enough to send an archaeologist.
misstuffy
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May 20, 2019
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I've seen those pics and videos, they appear fabricated to me as well.
@Katsarecool If you go onto the JPL or NASA websites and down load pics from their sites you will see things that do give them a little more credence. There are things that look fabricated in that they may have been part of a civilization many eons ago and have been eroded over time. I think it is possible a civilization may have existed but we need boots on the red planet that belong to an archaeologist to be sure. While I am not convinced I am intrigued. NASA has already said there was indeed microbial life found on Mars. I am looking forward to the first manned missions to Mars coming up in a few years.
There were some lectures in the 90, by someone Hagan I think about the face on Mars that had been drawn by a South American artist in the 50’s. If you can remember what that was about please let me know.
At least three of our own astronauts have claimed seeing UFOS while in space!!!
Katsarecool
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May 20, 2019
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Nothing you have said or presented amounts to a hill of beans. It is your mind equating what you are seeing with what you think or wish it must mean like people who believe in god, whatever that means because that is the way their brain works and what comforts them. No amount of belief equals truth.
This is not entirely true......
@Healthydoc70 I don't believe in god. I don't believe aliens were dieties. I believe ancient humans thought they were dieties.
If the magician David Copperfield appeared in 100 BCE in Bagdad for example. The people would call him a god, bow down to him or Satan and kill him. He would be simply a magician from the future.
At least 400 triangular corrals built thousands of years ago in Saudi Arabia, they extend into Jordan and Syria, all halve walls 3 ft tall.
Some archeologists say they were built to keep gazelles trapped. The problem with that is that gazelles can jump up yo yen feet high.
They can only been seen from the air. Ancient Alien theorists say those corrals are welcoming Extraterrestials back to Earth. I agree with them.
Images from space of the Saudi Arabian corrals.
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