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APOCALYPSE NOT?

Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions [cei.org]

  1. 1967: ‘Dire famine by 1975.’
  2. 1969: ‘Everyone will disappear in a cloud of blue steam by 1989.’
  3. 1970: Ice age by 2000
  4. 1970: ‘America subject to water rationing by 1974 and food rationing by 1980.’
  5. 1971: ‘New Ice Age Coming’
  6. 1972: New ice age by 2070
  7. 1974: ‘New Ice Age Coming Fast’
  8. 1974: ‘Another Ice Age?’
  9. 1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life’
  10. 1976: ‘The Cooling’
  11. 1980: ‘Acid Rain Kills Life in Lakes’
  12. 1978: ‘No End in Sight’ to 30-Year Cooling Trend
  13. 1988: James Hansen forecasts increase regional drought in 1990s
  14. 1988: Washington DC days over 90F to from 35 to 85
  15. 1988: Maldives completely under water in 30 years
  16. 1989: Rising seas to ‘obliterate’ nations by 2000
  17. 1989: New York City’s West Side Highway underwater by 2019
  18. 2002: Famine in 10 years
  19. 2004: Britain to have Siberian climate by 2020
  20. 2008: Arctic will be ice-free by 2018
  21. 2008: Al Gore warns of ice-free Arctic by 2013
  22. 2009: Prince Charles says only 8 years to save the planet
  23. 2009: Arctic ice-free by 2014
  24. 2013: Arctic ice-free by 2015
  25. 2013: Arctic ice-free by 2016
  26. 2014: Only 500 days before ‘climate chaos’
St-Sinner 9 Sep 25
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Malthus was correct. He just got the timescale wrong. Same with most of the above.

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Okay, you found a site that shares the most dire predictions as proof that climate change is a hoax. Every article listed uses a single source who doesn't present his research and not one source is a peer reviewed journal. In other words, these are fringe scientists capitalizing on the shock value of their claims, not reputable researchers presenting falsifiable hypotheses for their peers to test.

Do you know what the scientific method is? If you read credible scientific papers, you will rarely find the conclusions documented in absolute terms and never will you see this kind of hyperbole.

Of course, I realize I'm closed-minded because I expect scientific findings to be confirmed by more than one scientist.

JimG Level 8 Sep 25, 2019

What we agree with = is a good source
What we don't agree with = is a bad source?

@St-Sinner LOL He didn't say that at all. Are you ever not ridiculous with legitimate responses to your posts?

@AlPastor But I am saying that and it is a fact unlike your ridiculous response.

@St-Sinner Of course. LOL

@AlPastor LOL

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This might bring a little more balance to the libertarian viewpoints from the CEI...

[sourcewatch.org]

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So, we're getting our science and climate news from the Competitive Enterprise Institute now, right?

Because they're sure to be completely unbiased and have no stake whatsoever in whether there are tighter regulations on carbon emissions, pollution, waste disposal, fuel efficiency, or any of a dozen things that actual scientists are urging in order to stop the continuing trend of the destruction of our climate...

Meanwhile, anyone looking at actual science (like the UN report) would conclude that we're fucked. We fucked ourselves and the world for the next 1000 years. For example, global mean sea level has risen by over 3 meters, if I read the report correctly, since 1901, and it has accelerated fastest since 1990. That ain't coincidence. That's us fucking the planet. And it's really too late to unfuck. The most we can do is hope to stop making it worse.

This is one viewpoint but not the only one. Conservatives do not like Washington Post and New York Times, so they call it fake news. Would agree with that?

If not, why should other people not agree with this institute?

"For example, global mean sea level has risen by over 3 meters, if I read the report correctly, since 1901, and it has accelerated fastest since 1990".

ppl who accept these unsubstantiated alarmist claims as 100% true without even checking are hopelessly deluded & brainwashed.

@callmedubious I'm not sure why you think I haven't checked.

For example, the Solomon Islands have lost 5 islands altogether to rising sea levels, and another island in the chain lost 1/2 its habitable surface between 2011 and 2016 to rising seas and erosion. [theguardian.com]
The Arctic ice pack is melting far faster than it should... and we've known for over 10 years. [science.howstuffworks.com] Even Mike Pompeo acknowledged it. His comments about the future of Canada's Northern Passage tacitly admit that global warming is happening, even as his president and party deny it.

It's those who aren't alarmed that are delusional and brainwashed into thinking this is all perfectly normal.

@St-Sinner It is true that Trump coined the term "fake news" for any actual news that casts him in a negative light (which is, basically, any news about anything). It's also true that this term was widely adopted by his followers as a put-down for the mainstream media when the news carries stories that reflect badly on the conservative agenda. What does that have to do with the link you cite from an industry shill with a clear agenda of reducing governmental regulations?

Why should we not uncritically accept the CEI as a source? Because they are not a news-gathering organization or scientific organization, they're an industry promoter and cheerleader. They're dedicated to resisting regulation, in the name of maximizing profit.

Put it this way; their commentary on climate change is worth about as much as the Vatican's advice on what to do about pedophile priests.

@callmedubious The point here is that doomsday scenarios of the world ending within 5 years, 20 years have been predicted citing reputed scientists many times in the last 50 years. It is not denying the science. It is about the fake urgencies that overshadowed the other urgent issues that need dire help such as children dying of food- simple food on a daily basis.

@callmedubious, @Paul4747
You have to consider this simple fact:

It is unreliable and fake to progressives = Fox News, The American (magazine), American Affairs, The American Catholic Quarterly Review, The American Conservative.The American Enterprise., The American Interest. The American Mercury, American Outlook.

It is unreliable and fake to conservatives = CNN, Washington Post, The New York Times, Politico, MSNBC, Indivisible Guide, The Sanders Institute, Salon, The American Prospect, The Progressive, New Democracy Project, Center for American Progress

This has been going on for decades.

Nobody has the sole right to the truth. No scientist is right on all. There are scientists on both sides. There are viewpoints on both sides. We are not always right, just the opposition is not.

@Paul4747 ,
i have lived very close to the pacific ocean for 44 yrs. now just 3 blocks. and i walk along our boardwalk & the beach at least 3 times/wk. i can tell you that there is no sign of the ocean level rising even inches, never mind feet, since i've been here.
climate change occurs cyclically & has forever. read about the NW passage & you will find that over the centuries since men on ships have tried to get thru there there have been drastic changes in the ice cover (melting & freezing again) even over a few years, never mind decades or centuries. grade 10 science students know what happens when ice melts on a body of water.
since when is Pompeo an authority on climate change, or anything else for that matter.

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You forgot to add the many second comings of christ followed by rapture for the faithfull

Yes, right but then I realized he fucked up for himself and for us big time, So I decided to leave him out.

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Tell me, which of these had a concesus of 95%+ of climate scientists behind it?
And funny that you bring up ozone depletion. You know, where atmospheric scientists spotted a problem, and through global coordinated action, we took action that has gone a long way towards resolving it.
Not sure that really supports your argument. Not that it's a particularly coherent one in the first place.

There were your type and all kinds of arguments to support and push all those 50 years of calamity predictions. I am sure that involved many many scientists also. We even gave the Nobel to Al Gore. Where is he now? I heard he does not use solar panels on his house.

@St-Sinner That first sentence really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. This whole exercise in cut and paste trolling equates the scientific consensus on anthropogenic climate change with the blitherings of an inbred member of the British royal family.
D-, must try harder.

@MrBeelzeebubbles I did not understand a thing in your scholarly response.

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