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If you were a non believer in religion or god as a child did your school force you to say the Lords prayer every morning? I ask because I felt this crap was being shoved down my throat , I began just folding hands and saying nothing to sitting there yawning and bored. Sometime even dropping my head on the desk.

K9Kohle789 8 Oct 29
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Until middle school then stopped

bobwjr Level 10 Oct 30, 2019

Same here

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No, we didn't say a prayer. We did the pledge of allegiance, and the phrase "one nation under god" was in it at the time. As a child I never thought about that phrase. To me it was just empty sounds ... devoid of real meaning ... except for the knowledge that we had achieved memorization of a few sentences.

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I grew up overseas in a non military household, The international schools I attended most of those years had no such thing. I did attend my cousin’s school a few times when we were back visiting and always thought the pledge and prayer before starting school were very weird.

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Not forced, it was just what we did. Didn’t affect me at all I don’t think. I always had a problem with All Creatures Great And Small though. Didn’t like it for one minute.

It was only when I got to my late 20’s I came across it again, I can’t remember how, but I realised that it was a response to Darwinism!

Not sure if it’s a Wesleyan hymn but pretty damn sneaky I thought!

You may enjoy this little factoid, because it really does sound like the almost perfect creationists response to Darwin, yet interestingly, and it came as quite a surprise to me, it was first published in 1848, eleven years before 'Origin Of Species'

It may though have been a response to the already growing hypothisis of evolution, especially perhaps Chamber's 'Vestiages Of Creation'. Darwin is such a large elephant in the room, when we look backwards into history, that it is easy to overlook the fact, that evolution was already well established as and idea, when Origin Of Species came out.

@Fernapple I know! I realised that when I made the post to see if it was Wesley. I went in and edited the post but looks like it didn’t do anything!

I guess that was what she was reacting to because it certainly sounds like a creationist apologetic.

Thanks for following that through.

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That is why FFRF is now fighting to save the next generations.

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