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When I first became aware the teachings of the church weren't at all true, I was still attending regularly. The funny thing about it is that I enjoyed it much more than I had before. When I was into it, I would agonize over whether I was good enough, praying enough, having impure thoughts. Why was God not speaking to me etc.
after I realized that God wasn't "speaking" to anyone, I was able to relax, enjoy the music and the friendships and have a good time. The main reason I kept going was my daughter, who had grown up in the church. She was a teenager, and her mom and I were divorced. It was when I got to spend the most time with her.
My beliefs and convictions finally changed to the point that I could no longer attend, but there was that couple of years when I really had a good time in my church.

Eazyduzzit 7 Nov 2
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A few years ago I was on a Christian forum giving the Christians "Hell." I read the comments of a young man who was trying to be a good Christian.....but he had what he considered a serious problem....he couldn't stop masturbating. His comments indicated that he was considering suicide because he thought he was not good enough. My comments to him to try and persuade him to not kill himself were rejected...he was going to do it. I contacted the webmaster who said he would follow up....the young man disappeared from the forum and I never knew what happened. Christianity puts terrible burdens on people.

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Good for you. But you must not be attending a Catholic Church. My girlfriend and her family are Catholics, And I have to go every now and then. It is soooo strange, boring and almost cultish.

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My story is similar yet worse. The church was against me going to university. I went anyway. Everything in the universe can be explained through science math rationality etc. Got married Found out my wife was molested at a young age in church. Tragic loss God couldn't do anything to save anyone. And here I am.

I'm curious about what flavor church you went to that discouraged your going to university.

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You got the wheat and the chaff defined. Your daughter is your concern and how to explain that you woke up without betraying your trust about your realized awakening. Long walks into nature is a slow and well cure all for your ability to discuss and talk about seeing the forest from the tree. Nature will give you all the necessary needed explanations. I like what the turtle always told me "Slow and easy wins the Race"

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I went to church with my then husband when he was stationed in Texas. I went with my children for a year while their dad was stationed in Korea. 9-11 happened about two months after we were in Florida. Went to connect with people, found more people to bond with in scouts. By this point I had read the bible three times, and I was done. When someone suggested UU, at that time, I scoffed. It would be another decade, and three more people suggesting the UU before I went. Still a member today. It is the place where all the weirdos meet while everyone else attends Church of Christ or pick your flavor of Baptist. Love my UU's. They keep me sane.

SAMae Level 5 Nov 2, 2019

I like UU too, but my wife who's Catholic doesn't seem too thrilled about going. We attended for a while, but then every time I mentioned going she had something else she wanted to do that day. Maybe we'll start back again. I really would like to find my tribe somewhere.

@Eazyduzzit That is the great thing about UU, it can be anyone's tribe. There is an older couple who come regularly. The wife is Catholic, so they attend those services first and then both come to UU. They do both together. If that is too much for a day, maybe you can alternate weekends. Nothing says pagan, and we will make room for you like Catholicism. Recovering Catholic myself.

@SAMae Yeah, she never attends Catholic Church and UU was a sort of compromise for both of us. Me being atheist and her being catholic. I really enjoyed the UU services more than she did though.

What is UU ?

@dumasarok Unitarian Universalists. They began as a sect of Christianity, but today's incarnation is entirely different. It is the only place where anyone can congregate on a Sunday morning. They live by seven principals that closely follow along humanist and environmental lines. People of all faiths and non faiths are welcome. We have atheists, agnostics. A Baptist minister who is now an atheist. Gay, straight, POC, young, old and a myriad of differing politics. It is a great safe place to go. No one is screaming hellfire and damnation at those assembled, unless of course they are talking about climate change. Those discussions can get heated at times, but at the end of the day folks are friends and respect others who think differently than themselves.

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I play the music for churches regularly and I do enjoy the singing and even the sermons sometimes. The people are always very nice and welcoming.

So are the folks at our Free Thinkers meeting and we are rational and search for truth.

@rogueflyer So are the people in my atheist meet up.

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There are some good things about churches: (1) fellowship; (2) music and group singing; (3) opportunities to participate in charitable causes; (4) support for those who want to improve themselves.

However, such things are available in non-religious settings, too. I choose the non-religious settings, where people are not trying to brainwash me into believing that myths are reality.

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Yes, god is not speaking to anyone but my long time religious friend is my age and claims he talks to god every day. Recently he claimed god healed his dog but also told me the dog was operated on by the vet. Typical religious jargon.

I hope that you and your daughter are still getting along nicely regardless of not going to church any longer. This is the important thing.

We are, but I haven't leveled with her about losing my faith. She has gotten more religious over the years, and I don't want her to spend less time with me, of keep my grandkids away because of it.

@Eazyduzzit Do you think she would do that? I hope not.

@GreatNani I hope not too, but in this area of the country Atheists are spoken of in hushed tones like they were Satan himself. I know she hears this stuff in church, so even though she knows I'm not very religious, she doesn't know to what extent. I heard the same things when I was in church, and I believed them.

@Eazyduzzit I am sorry. That is difficult. I suppose unless she asks you there is no reason to say anything?

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I could not do that, I had spent so long suffering over the idea that there was something wrong with me for not hating so many "sins and sinners" and not understanding why a loving god would want to burn so many people for making tiny mistakes or thinking for themselves, that when I realised the church itself was the hateful and hateworthy organisation I quite literally could no longer even cross the threshold with out feeling physically sick.

Yeah, I eventually got there too. That's when I stopped going.

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It can be enjoyable as long as you tune out the crazy. But the fellowship and community that you found there with your child is a good thing.

I can see how it could be a good thing except for having too many Christians.

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