I was reading a post by a member about how hard it is to find love with another atheist because not too many people identify as such. I have to agree with him. I have these two situations that I am currently in and I would like to ask what the members of this community would do in those situations.
First. In my field of work I have to meet with clients and do their Medicare plans, insurance plans and retirement plans for them. A vast majority of them ask me either when I first meet them, or at the end of our meeting if I am a Christian and if I have accepted Jesus as my savior. I have heard on many occasions from clients and potential clients that they would not do business with anyone who is not a Christian.
Second. I am talking with this girl and she is a good person, and almost every conversation and text and meme that she sends me has God bless you. Thanks God. God willing. Everything starts with something about God. It wasn't like that when we first started talking, but now that she has gotten more trusting and comfortable with me, she says them all the time. I haven't decided whether to pursue this relationship further. I am weary of getting involved with someone who is too religious. I do value our friendship, but I can see that she wants more and I don't want someone that is too religious.
My two questions are.
1- Would you answer no to the question of being Christian and accepting jesus and severely endanger your ability to earn a leaving.
2- On the relationship scenario. Would you come out and say to this other person that you do not believe in God and potentially lose a friend.
When it comes to professional connections, its inappropriate for them to be asking it. I would conscious free tell them whatever they want to hear on that front, bearing in mind though --- do you then want to spend months immersed in such an environment? In the relationship realm though, ethics aside - it would simply be exhausting to have to be constantly lying about such fundamental things in a relationship. If the purpose is just a purely transitory physical hook-up kind of relationship? Maybe. But if romance is concerned? No way.
This is the south. You and I may think that it is inappropriate for someone to ask that, but they think it is their duty to make sure that everyone has accepted christ so that he can return. I use their own teaching to basically say no without coming out and saying no, and they don't even realize that I am answering no that I don't believe. The relationship scenario is going to stay on a friendship level. I would tell her the truth if I was going to pursue it and it probably wouldn't work. Th hey always think they can save you and make you a believer.
It must suck to be older, for me because so many people under 30 are Atheist or agnostic it's a lot easier, and most people who are Christian are open to the idea of giving up religion.
The demographic shift is critical.
Have you considered dating women half your age?
Because so many 30 year old women are eager to hook up with someone their father hangs out with?
@Haemish1 Yes, absolutely, 100%, without the slightest doubt, Yes!
Never heard of daddy issues?
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For men, age is a definitive advantage.
@Happy_Killbot
No doubt such ladies exist, but let me know your experience when you turn 60.
@Happy_Killbot Only in your dreams.... Must only be true for older men who are hot-looking or rich. In two years of online dating, I couldn't even get one woman willing to meet me that was even five years younger than me.
@TomMcGiverin Online dating is a scam, stop using it I guarantee you will do so much better.
Think: what would they ( the dating website ) get from having people actually meet people and form a relationship?
The answer is nothing, it is in their best interest to keep you single because then you will pay for their service and they keep making money.
Fuck, some sites like okcupid and match have openly admitted to manipulating matches to display higher match percentages and/or selling your data. You have to be a python wizard to sort through everyone and use these services appropriately, and for all the work you would have to put into making that happen, you might as well as try picking up chicks drunk at sketchy nightclubs with the phrase: "I request you procreate with me"
I am in my fifties and I do not want to raise a girlfriend or a wife. I am not one of those guys who dates women half my age. I like smart intelligent women who have already figured out what they are looking for in life. That advice would not work for me thanks.
@Happy_Killbot
I’m in total agreement with you on the “online dating scam,” but I think that it’s a small minority of women who are looking for a mature man, who isn’t a “sugar daddy,” and even those are rare.
Ive chosen the path of honesty, My partner is very religious and we agreed that we would just love each other regardless if religion helps her get through the day then good for her. Also I let all who ask that I am an atheist and if bothers them then we do not need to be friends. Belief or non belief should always be a personal choice.
If you study the biblical text you would be about to point out that *with out debate of truth or fiction of Jesus character) the text indicates that Jesus is Lucifer the devil. You can point this out to people and tell them to quit being devil worshippers supporting the Masonic lodge secret religion racist devil worshippers and their establushment of the mark of the beast 666 began by requiring birth certificate, social security number, and photo identification in furtherance of the "religious " requirements of the biblical text.
Trends as they currently are in the US, if you announce that you are secular (I don't think the public is ready for "Atheist" yet), that would be truthful without necessarily rejecting their religious choices. If they ask further, just say you believe in the separation of church and business. In the long term, I think this approach will net more new business than lost business.
I would gently remind her, "You know I'm an atheist, right?" and see what happens next. If you try to be anything but honest, then she develops a relationship with the person she thinks you are ... which is someone else and kinda misses the whole point.... right??
#1 Ugh, what obnoxious, horrible clients! I guess I would go with "I prefer to keep my religious views private. Thank you." Even if I WERE a 'saved' person, I would find that egregiously invasive. THIS is why I hate religious people. I got into a 'debate' at a flea market when some jackoff started this - but I totally get that this is your job, not just some loony at a flea market.
#2 Is she just saying these as expressions? I say these things all the time, even though I am atheist/agnostic. When I leave work on the weekend, I always say "See ya Monday, god willing!" as a kinda joke. I also say "bless you" to sneezers lol I was at an atheist meeting and we were all kinda laughing about this topic, i.e. how often we use 'god'
I think it's no big deal, but that's just me.
To the first question. I would say to them, I do not mix work with personal matters. If they insist on an answer. I would tell them the truth. For honesty is the most important thing. I have dealt with this on a few occasions. I've lost customer and I have gained respect and kept them. Just be true to yourself. On the relationship. I would to her the truth. If you really care about her it's a nice brainier.
I’ve done a stint working for a Christian organisation and found it conflicted with my belief system, especially being told I couldn’t tell young people all their options about unplanned pregnancy. I wouldn’t work for one by choice again.
What kind of relationship is going to grow well if it’s not based on honesty, at least on the fundamentals? I’d be asking about religion, and sharing my view if they ask, (possibly veto- ing the potential relationship if they didn’t) on the second or third relationship
But I get some areas of America are totally different and before being shut out of your community there’s probably a bit more preparation to be done.
Reading down it seems like you’ve decided on your plan of action; I’d be interested to know what phrase you use on the Christians in case I ever have to visit
I answer according to what is written about what they said jesus thought us, we should treat everyone the same way that we want to be treated and not be judgmental. Help the poor, and also the commandments that took 40 days to put on a tablet
also tells us not to kill. If people followed a lot of the food teachings that have been passed down to us from history humankind would be better off. These are some of the answers that I give.
Usually unless I'm feeling extremely charitable I will be honest