Getting a religious person to listen.
A JW has just knocked at the door
Yes, they do not listen but persistence is Golden . The conversation below has not happened but I use it as an example of how we might yes might,- if first we open the door - use one of their tactics and turn it back against them
( yes capitals does mean shouting)
Householder : Welcome . Thank you so much for not preaching . JW I have come to tell you about OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
Householder: You are preaching.
JW :No I am not I am just telling you about a good man who was the son of god.
Householder: If I wanted to know about him there is enough written about him so that I would not have to stop reading for the rest of my life? And I know that what I have read does not work for everyone.
JW That's why I want to shout it out loud
Householder:That is what preachers do
Does shouting make right what you are saying, if there is no proof?
JW: I do not need proof I just KNOW.
Householder: You are shouting again The only way of knowing anything is through Science.
JW: I do not want science to tell me anything . It keeps changing.
Housholder: Well science does not tell you anything. . You have to plan it very well and prove it yourself. If you want to defeat someone else’s science you just have to do better science and explain why it is better.
Here is your hat. What is your hurry?
Thank you so much for not preaching . Goodbye.
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but keep it simple. They have been wrong for a long time.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.I simply site counters from the Bible of everything they say. There is always something that says the opposite of that they try to say.
DavidLaDeau
Level 8
Feb 15, 2020
0
Good tactic . They often do not expect us to have knowledge of the Bible and it throws them a bit. There is online help for this tactic.
[rationalwiki.org]
@Mcflewster Thank You for the link. One does have to know the Bible better than they do. This approach is not practicle for most.
@DavidLaDeau Let us just encourage it. Personally I get others to do the hard work.
I find hanging a Pentagram on my front door works GREAT...scares them off like a shark fin while your swimming.
phoenixone1
Level 8
Feb 15, 2020
1
Repell Boarders !!
Last year, I was outside doing a little work when they showed up. My technology loving kids were out there with me.
A good looking babe hops out of the almost new Dodge van, with a suit and tie character named Ray.
After introductions, they start:
Babe: Wouldn't you agree that all of this technology nowadays is just awful for our society and families?
( no definition of "awful technology" )
Me: Not really. Should we live in caves and darkness like the Taliban?
Babe: Why of course not ( all uphill here for the Babe and Ray .....)
To make a long story short, before they got back into their late model Dodge van and drove away, they left me with their anti-technology tools: The jw website.org and the full bible app for cell phones. Ray said he would check back with me, which we both new wasn't gonna happen (nice try Ray!)
My son 14 at the time, witnessed all of it. And he saw that everything I have spoken to him about religion talking in circles rang true. We were both curious if that van was loaded with the latest technology....(probably more so than my basic junk, but I don't wanna assume)
The value of engaging in conversation: PRICELESS !
twill
Level 7
Feb 15, 2020
1
A good session!! especially in front of the kids. Did they envy their bling?
@Mcflewster Not really. He likes what he likes. Not a particularly envious kid. Makes me proud!
I found it best, at least for someone like me, who has limited time that I despise to waste. To answer the door and very calmly and politely say "thank you but. I am not interested in religions, please do not insist or knock on this door again." Then I calmly close the door and go about my business. Time spent: few seconds.
Mofo1953
Level 9
Feb 15, 2020
0
This of course is open to everyone and the bulk of the membership of this site probably do it. I have used that technique long since but just this week I had a conversation on science with a JW in the high street of Reading and I really enjoyed keeping on top of the situation
@Mcflewster i don't enjoy wasting my time, sorry.l BTW, that feeling of being of top is yours only, not the brainwashed party whose mind remains unchanged.
@Mofo1953 "yours only"? Are you sure about that? Christopher Hitchins was definitely on top. Sad he had to go. No one WANTS to be brainwahed for ever, although I realise they have to be made aware first.
@Mcflewster you keep on believing that and diung what you do, let us know how many conversions you get. My prognosis is, no offense, zero, zilch, bupkiss, nada. But I of course could be wrong.
@Mofo1953 " I of course could be wrong." that is my mantra too but the difference between us is that I believe it is worth saying and pursuing.
@Mcflewster and nobody is stopping you from it, it's your time, so if you want to use it wisely or waste it is your choice.
@Mofo1953 No one thought any different or did they?, Sorry if I did not make that clear.
@Mcflewster your original pist doesn't mention it.
It’s quicker just to say “no thanks...not buying today” and close the door! 
Marionville
Level 10
Feb 15, 2020
0
i don't wear clothing in the house. if someone wants to come visit me, they call first or they are ignored.
exception: the ups truck is parked in front of the house. then i try to dress quickly....
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genessa
Level 8
Feb 15, 2020
1
Nifty Footwork!
If I engaged in a war of words I would be left tense and on edge. “No thanks, I’m not interested” works better for me.
WilliamFleming
Level 8
Feb 14, 2020
1
I understand this especially if there are medical reasons . I get anxiety within my family. My efforts however and hopes are to eliminate those tensions in the future . Everything about this website is voluntary as far as I know and we do not use guilt ever as a tactic.
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