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"What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government,
instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy." James Madison

Archeus_Lore 7 Apr 10
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Nothing quite rallies the base like people in the pursuit of happiness

twill Level 7 Apr 11, 2020
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Thanks for the quote. I would say that James Madison seems very accurate even today.

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It pisses me off that the religious establishments provide chaplains to make the troops feel good about dying for their country and then send them off to die.

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Too many want what they refer to as god(s) law!!!

The reality is that man has written god(s) law in their own image, not their god(s) image, simple god(s) do not write or talk to or with the sane!!!

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Indeed! Madison, Jefferson and Paine were like-minded in their opinions on this matter. Prior to the founding of the United States of America, the altar and throne were in league with one another. But the Framers knew better than to put God in the Constitution.

The problem has been a steady erosion of church-state separation, promulgated by that profligate beggar, religion. Never satisfied with merely being left alone, religion with outstretched hands seeks greater recognition, including legal and financial support from the government. Religion can never be happy until it can reclaim the power it once held, prior to the age of enlightenment.

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