This article explains things comprehensively for anyone interested in learning the differences: [healthline.com]?

...yep ~ science is trying to allow us to understand
more of this but it is a profound fact.
Thanks

I agree, males still act like males and females like females within their relationships, regardless of their orientation. I think some dies are cast as you say, but some are fluid. You might enjoy the book "a billion wicked thoughts" which is a study of human sexuality via the data available from porn sites.

@OwlInASack My thrust is to observe and try to understand. I’ll leave social advocacy to others. Are you saying that roosters should stop crowing or just that we should not notice their crowing and count them only as chickens along with the hens?

@Cyklone No they don’t! What you are describing is gender roles, not gendered people.

@Geoffrey51 No, I'm not describing gender roles and I'm not making unreferenced assertions, why don't you read the book I mentioned. It is properly referenced research.

@Cyklone Who is the book written by?

@Geoffrey51 A billion wicked thoughts by Ogi Ogas. Doing good research on sex is wxtremely difficult because noone will sponsor it. This researcher used data available from porn sites. It's about gendered behaviour, hardwired, as opposed to gendered roles like Powder is referencing. You might find 'you just don't understand" interesting as well as it is sociological research on the differences in between male/female communication and group behaviour.

@Geoffrey51, @powder you're talking about gender roles which are learnt behaviour, whereas I'm talking about much more subtle hard wired behaviours.

@powder I don't disagree with you on that. It reinforces the point that gender orientation is biological. But what about the ways in which males become aroused as opposed to females eg. Visial vs verbal, or even that males have better spatial orientation while females better verbal. Male and female brains are hardwired differently which leads to subtle differences not changed by orientation

@powder that's the purpose of this sort of research, to determine if there are hardwired behaviours which are common. It turns out that there are, but they are subtle.

@powder They can also be difficult for us to see perhaps because we are embedded within the context. But if you think about it, considering the differences between male/female brains and bodies wouldn't it be surprising if there were not hardwired differences.

@powder this isn't experimental research, it's correlational, with all the errors inherent within that. But to quote you back, given all the differences, wouldn't it be surprising if the only differences were reproduction. I suggrst you read the references provided.

@powder I have found the knowledge to have extraordinary practical use.

@powder Both. Once you know what to look for it is quite revealing.

@VeronikaAnnJ and even at the ends of the spectrum I've noticed people influenced by availability. Although straight, people will love, cuddle and have sex with the same sex just to have human contact if that's all that's available, and then revert later. Eg. Prisons.

@VeronikaAnnJ and they have to live as that gender for a number of years before being accepted for reassignment surgery by reputable clinics

@VeronikaAnnJ I'm reading a book that delves into this ::
it is a view point foisted on EVERYONE at a young age.
( and I see it entrenched in the youth of our culture).
To be anything less than 100%masculine- is not an
option( or 100%feminine)- you WILL be what we tell you to be. The book- " The Sex Myth " by Racheal Hills , Simon&Shuster Paperbacks 2015.
When I was growing up ( and through my 20's) ,death
would have seemed preferable to being considered
OUTSIDE THE GROUP. Clicks; bullying; and a strict adherence to social norms RULED then and (unfortunately)
now , is a present. I used to think of trans/ gay people
as a militant lot ,,, now I know WHY !

@VeronikaAnnJ Gender can be used similar to the word sex. But simply to answer your question, yes gender could be used to more so be what a person THINKS of themselves rather than what might be physically observed on the genetic reproduction chemistry level.

@VeronikaAnnJ Also, a transgender might could "act" like the gender of their genetic opposite, where as I would say transexual did physical surgey or something to change some parts.

What would you make of XYY individuals, and people whose genitalia are not properly expressed during growth and maturation?

@VeronikaAnnJ As a Libertarian, I am all for sex reassignment therapy when it comes to adults, but generally don't think such a decision should be available for minors though.

@anglophone Hermaphrodites are rather rare, and by the time they reach adulthood they usually decide which sex they wish to identify as. With that said, nature created two sexes, and keep in mind hermaphrodites are a combination of the two sexes. The supposed 64 genders is an absurd notion that I cannot take seriously.

@VeronikaAnnJ My question was aimed at @SpikeTalon, as I was interested in what his response might be.

If you are asking for my response to your original post, it goes like this. I see sex as something that continues the existence of the species. I see gender as something that is closely coupled with genitalia and the associated X and Y chromosomes. I see gender identity as a psychological manifestation. I do not see any of the foregoing as social constructs.

@VeronikaAnnJ This is a start- [healthline.com]

Personally, I don't take any of that seriously.